Hi Amar,
I am not going to tell you anything remotely new, but you might find it of
some use.
My friend, also blind by birth, learnt signing after a lot of efforts. She
had an excellent sighted teacher at AICB who made her learn it. So keep
practising on that frame and take help of an intelligent sighted as it is
crucial.
Your friend
Shadab
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Amar Jain" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] 'Signatures' Special Formalities for passport?
Hello,
No urgency at all. I tried learning signing, using that scale which small
kids use, in which you have letters as blocks and there that much space
you need to move your pen and the letter is made. But again it requires
hell
lot of practice and I didn't find this idea of learning shape that useful.
Then I also thought of an option to make one scale of your name itself so
just move the pen in those blocks, and you can sign that. But then it
might
be not valid because what if someone steals that scale? Although legally I
think hand writing experts report can be obtained to make it valid in case
of any dispute. But don't know whether I am in right direction or not.
Can you give me any other idea for learning on how to sign?
Somebody also told that on Eyeway radio show there was a mention of some
card board, but he didn't know in detail as to what it was and from where
to
get it.
I am totally blind by birth, no idea of shapes of letters, have both
plastic
and aluminum signature guides.
I am not going on 15th now, won't be signing that illiteracy declaration
for
sure, first of all I will give my 100% effort for learning signature. Now
there will be no otherwise kind of situation to this. If I want passport,
I
will learn signature. That's it. By no chance I want to sign any such
illiteracy declaration.
I remember, when I went for opening my bank account, my manager very
politely said "Don't mind, you are pursuing Law, so, why don't you learn
signing the form? I know you are educated, but still it is the thinking,
that if you put thumb impression, it means you are illiterate". Though I
just explained the problem that due to no vision many a times letters
differ
bit.
This provision of considering persons with thumb impression as illiterate
was enshrined in our constitution at the time of making, which is not
wrong
because it gives protections to rural masses, but makes no difference
between the literate and illiterate person.
I must appreciate CDSL's approach towards this, while opening demat
account,
they give instructions to the depository participants to put a remark for
we
VI as "Person with visual impairment and thumb impression". This directly
or
indirectly shows that they do make distinction between an illiterate and
literate person.
Anyways no doubts, the experience of all accessindians will make my task
easier. So, a kind request from all of you to please share your views on
learning signature on or off the list.
And thanks, for this good and positive approach.
Looking forward for ideas which may help me in my way.
Regards,
Amar Jain.
-----Original Message-----
From: Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 12:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AI] Special Formalities for passport?
If you don't need passport urgently, then a suggestion: Why not learn
some kind of signature? It helps tremendasly when you apply for bank
accounts by using passport as a photo ID. Also, there are banks
insisting for signature if you happen to go abroad and try opening an
NRI account.
Vetri.
On 13/10/2010, Rohiet A. Patil <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi!
I made my passport before 1 year approx.
At that time I did not feeled any such application. Just I wrote LHTI
i.e.
left hand thumb impration under the every every thumb.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Srikanth Kanuri" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] Special Formalities for passport?
hi, unfortunately in our country if we are affixing thumb we have to
get it attested by a notary there will be one declaration form and all
the formalities required will be in the instructions of the physical
form. the authorities insisted me for a gazetted attestation on the
prescribed proforma and further insisted me to sign an illiterate
declaration along with it. notary authorization is compulsion.
hope it helps.
On 10/12/10, Amar Jain <[email protected]> wrote:
Dear All
I have filled up passport application online, and will be going to
passport
office on 15th of Oct. I have seen the website carefully, and have even
spoken with the office. The website as such makes no reference to
disability
or any special formality to be followed except disability certificate,
while
applying for passport, and the office helpdesk people were not sounding
like
very trained people. Therefore, I sincerely request you all to let me
know
that are there any specific formalities to be completed for the
passport?
I use thumb impression, so will I be required to get the form
notarized?
I have to go to thane, which will take approx 1.5 hours from where I
stay,
and I will have to change two trains or one train and one bus at least.
Therefore, tell me everything from top to bottom.
Sorry for such an informal mail.
Regards
Amar Jain
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