dear bhavani sir. those blind girls who have good jobs can get poor or socially backward sighted boy easily.
On 7/2/14, ishita kapoor <[email protected]> wrote: > To adjust with colleagues is totally different thing. > only self motivation is not enough in real life. we can't prove > anything by 1 or 2 examples. blindness is limitation. and noone wish > to live willingly with the person with disability. > > I have heard many stories of disable and non disable life partners. > Just try to find reality in those stories. You will find some problem > it may be social or economical in non disable person who has married > blind person. > > > On 7/2/14, Asudani, Rajesh <[email protected]> wrote: >> Positive musings of Preet jee are well taken. >> However, again saying that we are trying to keep blindness out of the >> whole >> thing defeats the very purpose. >> Blindness matters, and will matter, positively or negatively, come what >> may... >> >> If we can be positive by living in denial, so be it.. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of Preeti Monga >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 3:43 PM >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning >> the disabled.' >> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are >> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners >> >> Dear Ishita, >> >> one must not go shopping for husbands or wives. We are not giving people >> a >> choice to marry blind partners or sighted ones! What we are trying to do >> is, >> keep blindness out of the whole thing. Coming back to that fact of being >> contributers, if there is something you have, which may be wanted by and >> admired by the other person looking for in his spouse, he/she will want >> to >> come forward and marry us. Now I do understand the 'poor blind girl', I >> too >> face it so often. Ever so often this is the case, but this is also >> something >> that is conditioned to keep our esteem down so that we dont begin to >> compete with the rest of them. Everyones biggest problem is 'what >> others >> are saying or thinking about me'? >> If we are going to live like that, I can assure you, you are going to >> never >> live life to itsfullest! Lots of people, including a lot of my family >> members don't aprove of all that I do. That has never stopped me from >> anything... if I had allowed it to do so, I would still be sitting at >> home >> at my parents home and wasting my life eating and moarning... instead of >> having a great time living life with all its challanges and fun! So come >> on, >> every drop counts. I know the challanges we have to face, but does that >> mean >> that we sit around waiting for them to take care of themselves? We will >> only >> live once the world begins to think differently about us? It will never >> happen! We have to make it happen for ourselves. and slowly things will >> change for each one of us. >> Preeti >> >> Preeti Monga >> Director >> >> >> >> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >> Landline: 011 22781446 >> E-mail: [email protected] >> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training >> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – >> Corporate >> ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying >> workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and >> Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >> >> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf >> Of ishita kapoor >> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:50 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are >> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners >> >> Dear preety madam, >> I can understand through your real example that marriage between >> disable and non disable is not always disastrous >> But I am being reasonable in stead of being positive or negative. >> If a person gets able bodied life partner then why he or she should >> accept blind person? >> Madam, this isn’t question of Indian or American mentality. >> Blindness is big problem. >> Blindness is not as simple and easy as you are describing. >> Fortunatlly I have vision right now. But if I will loss it, people >> will know me by my blindness more then my real name. >> If I will do something good, they will say: see that blind girl has >> done really great job. >> If I will fail in something they will say: bechari blind hai to thik >> se nahi kar paai. >> Blindness will always come first in our over all personality. >> People can accept us as a friend or employee easily with our >> blindness. But the same people will think twice before accepting blind >> life partner. >> Rather they will accept blind person as his or her life partner in >> majburi >> only. >> >> >> On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hey, who are these beggers? Not any of us here I hope? You all are all >>> doing >>> wonderfully well... then why are we calling ourselves, or even >>> indicating >>> towards ourselves as beggers! >>> >>> Life is our choice, you are whatever you have chosen to be... so let us >>> first of all choose to be beggers! We all deserve the best! How are we >>> going >>> to convince the world that we are great human beings, when we are still >>> referring to ourselves as beggers? I think we need to begin at the very >>> beginning. Incidently, we have a major disability, on top of that we go >>> ahead and subscribe to being beggers! Amazing! We first have to look at >>> ourselves as the true people we actually are! If we are still not able >>> to >>> do >>> this, how are we even expecting the non disabled society to look at us >>> differently? The world perceives you in the same way that you look at >>> yourself! Please remember, it is that simple! This is our world, and we >>> are >>> choosing to remain on the dark side of it, then why complain at the way >>> we >>> get treated? If you say your name is 'begger' then that is exactly what >>> you >>> will be called as or refered to by others! This is what is meant by >>> conditioning. >>> >>> Please do understand, all, each one of us is the very best and we have >>> equal right and equal duties by this world! Perform your duties to the >>> best >>> of your abilities, and your rights will come running after you! >>> Warmly >>> Preeti >>> >>> Preeti Monga >>> Director >>> >>> >>> >>> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >>> Landline: 011 22781446 >>> E-mail: [email protected] >>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training >>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – >>> Corporate >>> ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying >>> workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and >>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >>> >>> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Asudani, Rajesh >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:24 PM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are >>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners >>> >>> Well said Ishita. >>> Motivation is ok, but marriages between blind and sighted, without >>> compromise are rare.. >>> >>> Please remember beggars are not choosers.... >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>> Behalf >>> Of ishita kapoor >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:10 PM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are >>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners >>> >>> I have found the argument of bhavani sir more realistic. >>> Preety madam, if your aim is just to motivate us then your points are >>> valid. >>> I have 40 percent vision. >>> And if I lose it no sighted person will even think to marry me even in >>> dream unless he has social or economical problems. >>> In that case a guy will marry me if he won’t get proper match rather >>> any girl in able bodied world, >>> Or if I can offer him lots of money if he is poor >>> Or I have nice job and he has no earning capacity. >>> Otherwise no sighted person will marry me just for the sake of charity. >>> And I don’t have any bitter feeling for this belief. >>> Because everyone has right to choose a life partner who is equal in all >>> aspects >>> I can’t marry with the guy who doesn’t have both arms and both legs. >>> The same way I shouldn’t expect such charity from any able bodied man. >>> And yes I won’t get promotion if I ask my boss to touch his clothes by >>> saying: sir log kafi tariff kar rahe hai chalo mai bhi chhoo ke dekhu >>> to tariff kar saku. >>> I don’t have much experience but still I would like to advice all >>> youngsters that please don’t do this. >>> Don’t ask anyone that: sir ya madam mai apke kapde dekhna chahta hun >>> ya chahti hun. >>> >>> >>> On 7/2/14, Preeti Monga <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> You are very right! >>>> Preeti >>>> >>>> Preeti Monga >>>> Director >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >>>> Landline: 011 22781446 >>>> E-mail: [email protected] >>>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >>>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training >>>> –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – >>>> Corporate >>>> ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying >>>> workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and >>>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >>>> >>>> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >>>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Zoher Kheriwala >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:44 AM >>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>>> concerning >>>> the disabled. >>>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are >>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners >>>> >>>> In the world we cannot expect every sighted person to get married to a >>>> blind person, even we cannot expect every blind person to get married >>>> to a blind person. Some of us might have rejected the proposal of >>>> sighted person not because of he or she is sighted but many reasons >>>> other vice. Or if we are rejected by sighted person, it might not be >>>> related to our blindness. >>>> Let me have the courage to make the statement, Many of we blind people >>>> have the habit to relate our rejection (not only in marriages but also >>>> in jobs and other sectors) to our blindness, but I am sure that if we >>>> are appealing to the required party then our blindness should not be >>>> of great concern. Yes having some doubt about our work efficiency is >>>> quite natural in the case of sighted partner, this may not be the case >>>> if we are engaged with blind partner. This is the time when we have to >>>> show our ability (not only through talking but also through working). >>>> Marrying to a sighted person or vice versa cannot guaranty of >>>> successful married life. It has very little to do with our blindness. >>>> I have married to a blind girl, We have not accepted each other >>>> because we are blind, blindness is just is a coincidence. Let me put >>>> in other words, My life partner happends to be a person with >>>> blindness. >>>> When we are in a hunt of life partner, we cannot over estimate the >>>> ability of sighted person and we should not under estimate the ability >>>> of blind partner. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 7/2/14, Shadab Husain <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hey Bhawani bhai, nice quotes! The key point is that there has to be >>>>> some >>>>> "self-interest" for both the parties otherwise the friendship will >>>>> end. >>>>> A >>>>> person with financial poverty and emotional richness can provide >>>>> emotional >>>>> support to the emotionally poor but financially rich one and thus can >>>>> be >>>>> equal in status. Can we apply it on a blind marrying a sighted? >>>>> Disagree >>>>> with it, but I won't - especially after seeing so many examples on >>>>> Access >>>>> India. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>>> Of bhawani shankar verma >>>>> Sent: 02 July 2014 07:13 >>>>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>>>> issuesconcerning >>>>> the disabled. >>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are >>>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners >>>>> >>>>> "Never make friends with people who are above or below you in status. >>>>> Such >>>>> friendships will never give you any happiness." >>>>> - Chanakya >>>>> >>>>> "There is some self-interest behind every friendship. There is no >>>>> friendship >>>>> without self-interests. This is a bitter truth." >>>>> - Chanakya >>>>> >>>>> both quotations should also be applied regarding partnership. marriage >>>>> is >>>> a >>>>> social partnership between to parties where they have joined each >>>>> other >>>>> to >>>>> satisfy their physical and emotional desires. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "aditi shah" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: "accessindia" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2014 6:24 PM >>>>> Subject: [AI] . Re: my quriyocity are >>>>> normelpeopleintrestedinmarryingblindpartners >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there everyone, >>>>>> Have been reading this discussion since a few days, so felt like >>>>>> expressing my views as well. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are all humans blind or not, and we have our own set of skills. >>>>>> There might be areas we are extremely good at or there might be areas >>>>>> we cannot do much, in case of us blind it may be because of our >>>>>> disability whereas incase of sighted it might be due to other >>>>>> reasons. >>>>>> According to me, a happy married life demands a set of some basic >>>>>> skills, like understanding, cooking, up bringing of kids, earning, >>>>>> socializing, etc. >>>>>> Again, these basic requirements differ depending on what kind of a >>>>>> lifestyle one has. >>>>>> So, in my view, it does not really matter whether we are marrying a >>>>>> sighted or a blind, what matters is whether our's and our partner's >>>>>> skills can meet those basic requirements or not. >>>>>> Considering this, I disagree from the belief that if a blind has to >>>>>> marry a sighted, he has to make compromises like marrying someone >>>>>> economically or intellectually weaker than us. >>>>>> If a blind who is earning well or is from a well-to-do family or may >>>>>> be is extremely qualified marries a sighted from a weaker economic >>>>>> background or qualification, it is not a compromise as far as both >>>>>> partners together possess the required skills. >>>>>> Even if a blind is marrying a blind, and both of them can manage to >>>>>> do >>>>>> the required things, may be in ways different than the normal world, >>>>>> they can indeed have a successful married life. >>>>>> >>>>>> So, it is not about being blind or sighted, it is always about >>>>>> finding >>>>>> that someone such that with understanding, you can both match up for >>>>>> each other's shortcomings. >>>>>> Life partners are like two pieces of a puzzle, one has to find the >>>>>> other half that fits perfectly, lest we got to spend our entire life >>>>>> filling the gaps. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> aditi >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>> accessibility of mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_acc >>>>>> essindia.org.in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>> >>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org >>>>>> .in >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>> 1. 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