Dr. Syed: Sri Bhagavan says that the Heart is the Self. Psychology has
it that malice, envy, jealousy and all passions have their seat in the
heart. How are these two statements to be reconciled?
M.: The whole cosmos is contained in one pinhole in the Heart. These
passions are part of the cosmos. They are avidya (ignorance).
D.: How did avidya arise?
M.: Avidya is like Maya [she who is not is maya (illusion)]. Similarly
that which is not is ignorance. Therefore the question does not
arise. Nevertheless, the question is asked. Then ask, “Whose is the
avidya? Avidya is ignorance. It implies subject and object. Become
the subject and there will be no object.
D.: What is avidya?
M.: Ignorance of Self. Who is ignorant of the Self? The self must be
ignorant of Self. Are there two selves?
