Masturbation implies subject only.
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-----Original Message-----
From: roomsearching <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:07:39 
To: Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]<[email protected]>; 
Advaita<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: ignorance implies subject and object

sometimes masturbation can be bliss.
but since masturbation implies subject and object, it is an illusion.

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Phew, ignorance is bliss mate
>
> I feel angry about that
>
> Tsk :-)
>
> Sent from an iPhone
>
> On 28 Jul 2010, at 21:50, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> enlightenment is not a personal thing.
> once it happens, the one who is enlightened will automatically join the
> enlightened club.
> There is only one such club.
> Either you are in or you are automatically a part of the ignorance club.
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:35 PM, < <[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am an ignorant idiot who wishes to remain ignorant. That is
>> enlightenment for me.
>>
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>> *From: * roomsearching < <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>>
>> *Date: *Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:24:41 +0100
>> *To: *< <[email protected]>[email protected]>
>> *Cc: *Advaita< <[email protected]>[email protected]
>> >
>> *Subject: *Re: ignorance implies subject and object
>>
>> Are you saying that you do not agree with Ramana ?
>>
>> Then why are you interested in Advaita ?
>>
>> Well, then just admit that you are an ignorant idiot who wishes to remain
>> ignorant.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:16 PM, < <[email protected]>
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> There are as many selves as you want to imagine. As many as their
>>> definitions.
>>>
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>>> *From: * roomsearching < <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Sender: * <[email protected]>[email protected]
>>> *Date: *Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:09:58 +0100
>>> *To: *Advaita-Zen< <[email protected]>
>>> [email protected]>
>>> *Subject: *ignorance implies subject and object
>>>
>>> Dr. Syed: Sri Bhagavan says that the Heart is the Self. Psychology has
>>> it that malice, envy, jealousy and all passions have their seat in the
>>> heart. How are these two statements to be reconciled?
>>> M.: The whole cosmos is contained in one pinhole in the Heart. These
>>> passions are part of the cosmos. They are avidya (ignorance).
>>> D.: How did avidya arise?
>>> M.: Avidya is like Maya [she who is not is maya (illusion)]. Similarly
>>> that which is not is ignorance. Therefore the question does not
>>> arise. Nevertheless, the question is asked. Then ask, “Whose is the
>>> avidya? Avidya is ignorance. It implies subject and object. Become
>>> the subject and there will be no object.
>>> D.: What is avidya?
>>> M.: Ignorance of Self. Who is ignorant of the Self? The self must be
>>> ignorant of Self. Are there two selves?
>>>
>>
>>
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