sometimes masturbation can be bliss. but since masturbation implies subject and object, it is an illusion.
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]>wrote: > Phew, ignorance is bliss mate > > I feel angry about that > > Tsk :-) > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 28 Jul 2010, at 21:50, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > > enlightenment is not a personal thing. > once it happens, the one who is enlightened will automatically join the > enlightened club. > There is only one such club. > Either you are in or you are automatically a part of the ignorance club. > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:35 PM, < <[email protected]> > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I am an ignorant idiot who wishes to remain ignorant. That is >> enlightenment for me. >> >> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * roomsearching < <[email protected]>[email protected]> >> >> *Date: *Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:24:41 +0100 >> *To: *< <[email protected]>[email protected]> >> *Cc: *Advaita< <[email protected]>[email protected] >> > >> *Subject: *Re: ignorance implies subject and object >> >> Are you saying that you do not agree with Ramana ? >> >> Then why are you interested in Advaita ? >> >> Well, then just admit that you are an ignorant idiot who wishes to remain >> ignorant. >> >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:16 PM, < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> There are as many selves as you want to imagine. As many as their >>> definitions. >>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * roomsearching < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> >>> *Sender: * <[email protected]>[email protected] >>> *Date: *Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:09:58 +0100 >>> *To: *Advaita-Zen< <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject: *ignorance implies subject and object >>> >>> Dr. Syed: Sri Bhagavan says that the Heart is the Self. Psychology has >>> it that malice, envy, jealousy and all passions have their seat in the >>> heart. How are these two statements to be reconciled? >>> M.: The whole cosmos is contained in one pinhole in the Heart. These >>> passions are part of the cosmos. They are avidya (ignorance). >>> D.: How did avidya arise? >>> M.: Avidya is like Maya [she who is not is maya (illusion)]. Similarly >>> that which is not is ignorance. Therefore the question does not >>> arise. Nevertheless, the question is asked. Then ask, “Whose is the >>> avidya? Avidya is ignorance. It implies subject and object. Become >>> the subject and there will be no object. >>> D.: What is avidya? >>> M.: Ignorance of Self. Who is ignorant of the Self? The self must be >>> ignorant of Self. Are there two selves? >>> >> >> >
