there has to be a masturbator and the act of masturbation which implies subject and object you ignoranus!
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 6:11 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Masturbation implies subject only. > : ) > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > ------------------------------ > *From: * roomsearching <[email protected]> > *Date: *Thu, 29 Jul 2010 06:07:39 +0100 > *To: *Mark Ty-Wharton<[email protected]> > *Cc: *[email protected]<[email protected]>; Advaita< > [email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: ignorance implies subject and object > > sometimes masturbation can be bliss. > but since masturbation implies subject and object, it is an illusion. > > On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 12:19 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Phew, ignorance is bliss mate >> >> I feel angry about that >> >> Tsk :-) >> >> Sent from an iPhone >> >> On 28 Jul 2010, at 21:50, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> enlightenment is not a personal thing. >> once it happens, the one who is enlightened will automatically join the >> enlightened club. >> There is only one such club. >> Either you are in or you are automatically a part of the ignorance club. >> >> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:35 PM, < <[email protected]> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I am an ignorant idiot who wishes to remain ignorant. That is >>> enlightenment for me. >>> >>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: * roomsearching < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> >>> *Date: *Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:24:41 +0100 >>> *To: *< <[email protected]>[email protected]> >>> *Cc: *Advaita< <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> >>> *Subject: *Re: ignorance implies subject and object >>> >>> Are you saying that you do not agree with Ramana ? >>> >>> Then why are you interested in Advaita ? >>> >>> Well, then just admit that you are an ignorant idiot who wishes to remain >>> ignorant. >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:16 PM, < <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> There are as many selves as you want to imagine. As many as their >>>> definitions. >>>> >>>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: * roomsearching < <[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Sender: * <[email protected]>[email protected] >>>> *Date: *Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:09:58 +0100 >>>> *To: *Advaita-Zen< <[email protected]> >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Subject: *ignorance implies subject and object >>>> >>>> Dr. Syed: Sri Bhagavan says that the Heart is the Self. Psychology has >>>> it that malice, envy, jealousy and all passions have their seat in the >>>> heart. How are these two statements to be reconciled? >>>> M.: The whole cosmos is contained in one pinhole in the Heart. These >>>> passions are part of the cosmos. They are avidya (ignorance). >>>> D.: How did avidya arise? >>>> M.: Avidya is like Maya [she who is not is maya (illusion)]. Similarly >>>> that which is not is ignorance. Therefore the question does not >>>> arise. Nevertheless, the question is asked. Then ask, “Whose is the >>>> avidya? Avidya is ignorance. It implies subject and object. Become >>>> the subject and there will be no object. >>>> D.: What is avidya? >>>> M.: Ignorance of Self. Who is ignorant of the Self? The self must be >>>> ignorant of Self. Are there two selves? >>>> >>> >>> >> >
