It is a simple problem without solution

Putting a finite measurement on something infinite without physical presence is 
impossible

Someone needs to design a drug that breaks the unconditional logic loop 

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On 31 Jul 2010, at 20:45, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote:

> Consciousness is something that, at this time can not be measured, by
> physical science. It does however exist.
> Of a matter of fact, scientist that pursue this consciousness are
> shunned and often blackballed in the scientific world.
> 
> On Jul 31, 2:28 pm, [email protected] wrote:
>> Every 'I-sense' is consciousness. I am consciousness. There is nothing else 
>> but consciousness.
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rodger <[email protected]>
>> 
>> Sender: [email protected]
>> Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 12:25:22
>> To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
>> Subject: Re: What is?
>> 
>> The thing is,Mark,is that consciousness is the thing you're saying is
>> not a thing.
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2:14 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> My Internet analogy answers all these question - consciousness is not a 
>>> thing - there are things which provide a structure of existence for 
>>> consciousness - negate all those as not being you and you might find 
>>> yourself :-)
>> 
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>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2010, at 12:02, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> How can I say awareness is if I cannot percept it?
>> 
>>>> How can I percept it if it is not a something?
>> 
>>>> How can I discuss awareness if it is not a thing I percept?
>> 
>>>> For something to be 'percepted' it must be.
>> 
>>>> How can I say awareness?  WHY do I say awareness?
>> 
>>>> On Jul 31, 1:10 am, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>> And what is not?
>>>>> For something to be it must be percepted.
>>>>> So how can I say awareness IS if I cannot percept it?
>>>>> I can percept the thought that awareness does the perception but 
>>>>> awareness itself cannot be percepted, right?
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