:) Cool.
On Aug 2, 9:47 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay, got it :-) > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 1 Aug 2010, at 14:02, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Consciousness...just to use your term...is the thing defining itself > > as a kind of energy rather than a thing. > > > One can say consciousness is a kind of energy...one can say energy is > > a kind of consciousness.A > > loop...unbroken...inseparable...unified...not two...whatever. > > > Outside the form that energy is where is energy? > > Outside the form that consciousness is where is consciousness? > > > Energy,or consciousness...to use your terms...is all that is > > seen...ever.And all that is ever seeing.Seeing is a form of > > energy...or consciousness...or even bozo. > > > All there is is all there is...everything is everything. > > > On Aug 1, 7:06 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Consciousness is a kind of energy rather than a thing. > >> Like heat and electricity are forms of energy which cannot be seen but can > >> be felt. > >> Hence everything in the spiritual world is more or less connected to > >> energy. > > >> Our subtle bodies are energetic bodies. > >> There are far subtler levels of the body and the highest level is the > >> spiritual realm. > > >> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton > >> <[email protected]>wrote: > > >>> Yes very clever - and how does saying that move the conversation forward? > > >>> Sent from an iPhone > > >>> On 31 Jul 2010, at 20:25, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> The thing is,Mark,is that consciousness is the thing you're saying is > >>>> not a thing. > > >>>> On Jul 31, 2:14 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> My Internet analogy answers all these question - consciousness is not a > >>> thing - there are things which provide a structure of existence for > >>> consciousness - negate all those as not being you and you might find > >>> yourself :-) > > >>>>> Sent from an iPhone > > >>>>> On 31 Jul 2010, at 12:02, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>>> How can I say awareness is if I cannot percept it? > > >>>>>> How can I percept it if it is not a something? > > >>>>>> How can I discuss awareness if it is not a thing I percept? > > >>>>>> For something to be 'percepted' it must be. > > >>>>>> How can I say awareness? WHY do I say awareness? > > >>>>>> On Jul 31, 1:10 am, [email protected] wrote: > >>>>>>> And what is not? > >>>>>>> For something to be it must be percepted. > >>>>>>> So how can I say awareness IS if I cannot percept it? > >>>>>>> I can percept the thought that awareness does the perception but > >>> awareness itself cannot be percepted, right? > >>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone
