Okay, got it :-) Sent from an iPhone
On 1 Aug 2010, at 14:02, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: > Consciousness...just to use your term...is the thing defining itself > as a kind of energy rather than a thing. > > One can say consciousness is a kind of energy...one can say energy is > a kind of consciousness.A > loop...unbroken...inseparable...unified...not two...whatever. > > Outside the form that energy is where is energy? > Outside the form that consciousness is where is consciousness? > > Energy,or consciousness...to use your terms...is all that is > seen...ever.And all that is ever seeing.Seeing is a form of > energy...or consciousness...or even bozo. > > All there is is all there is...everything is everything. > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 7:06 am, roomsearching <[email protected]> wrote: >> Consciousness is a kind of energy rather than a thing. >> Like heat and electricity are forms of energy which cannot be seen but can >> be felt. >> Hence everything in the spiritual world is more or less connected to energy. >> >> Our subtle bodies are energetic bodies. >> There are far subtler levels of the body and the highest level is the >> spiritual realm. >> >> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Mark Ty-Wharton >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> >>> Yes very clever - and how does saying that move the conversation forward? >> >>> Sent from an iPhone >> >>> On 31 Jul 2010, at 20:25, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> The thing is,Mark,is that consciousness is the thing you're saying is >>>> not a thing. >> >>>> On Jul 31, 2:14 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> My Internet analogy answers all these question - consciousness is not a >>> thing - there are things which provide a structure of existence for >>> consciousness - negate all those as not being you and you might find >>> yourself :-) >> >>>>> Sent from an iPhone >> >>>>> On 31 Jul 2010, at 12:02, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>>>> How can I say awareness is if I cannot percept it? >> >>>>>> How can I percept it if it is not a something? >> >>>>>> How can I discuss awareness if it is not a thing I percept? >> >>>>>> For something to be 'percepted' it must be. >> >>>>>> How can I say awareness? WHY do I say awareness? >> >>>>>> On Jul 31, 1:10 am, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> And what is not? >>>>>>> For something to be it must be percepted. >>>>>>> So how can I say awareness IS if I cannot percept it? >>>>>>> I can percept the thought that awareness does the perception but >>> awareness itself cannot be percepted, right? >>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone
