On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:57 PM, godszen <[email protected]> wrote: > my comment is that yes I believe Adi Da was > most likely a true sadguru, and that those who > don't think so, likely don't understand that the > Divine Self can have a not-so-perfect human- > personality (by usual human standards) > (of course this is just my opinion) >
Franklin Jones was indeed an expression of the same divinity whose expression was Ramana. And there was nothing sadguru-ic about Jones even after he changed his label. A Guru, as an instrument of the removal of darkness(of ignorance).......enables the removal not by increasing the dependency but by removing the senses of all types of dependency. Including on himself/herself. All the Shakti transmission stuff and sex hoopla of AdiDa, if he tried that in India he would get laughed at as there have been dime a dozen such conjurer-tricksters in any era in this land. And thought creates enough suckers in every era...........who need to be occupied. And to meet this need of to be occupied, con-jobs teem in every era. > > Krishna told Arjuna to go and kill the knuckleheads! > The dialogue is between Krishna and Arjun on the battlefield of Kurukshetra, which is the essence of the Bhagwad Gita. Krishna invites Arjun to be true to his nature/character/training/value system..... ....which was that of a warrior. And to engage in battle. As to what happens as a consequence of the battle, Krishna says to Arjun......has nothing to do with you, you who are a mere instrument for the manifestation of my functioning. Krishna tells Arjun, "You have no choice but to rise, do your duty and fulfill your destiny for I have already killed all those that you see on the battlefield." This is easily misconstrued by commentators who wish to see what they wish to believe, that it was only the Kauravas(the opposition facing Arjun) who were killed by Krishna, but what Krishna means that all on the battlefield, their end has already been doled out in varying time scale. What makes an appearance in the battlefield of life, which is the battlefield of time..... ....the ending of the appearance has already been doled out, as an intrinsic coding in the architecture of the very appearance. And then Krishna goes on to display his real form to Arjun and Arjun, sees the creation and destruction of multiple universes simultaneously within Kirshna. > > by today's standards Krishna was surely not a holy man. > "Holy" and "man".........are created sense of loci..........by thought. > > Judging by what was written about him, do you think Krishna was a holy man? > or just an evil egomaniac? > After reading this post, if you feel moved to, you decide > > please give me an honest answer, and feel free to explain yourself > Birth is such Death is such Verse or no verse What is the fuss?
