I am hoping for some critique of my suggestion that
excellence and achievement are not parallel terms;
that excellence is a one-time experience in relation
to an object whereas achievement is abstract, a
standard, a measure.  I don't think excellence and
achievement should be synonymous terms.

Miller chooses to ignore that distinction and goes on
with his usual conflation of excellence and
achievement, the popular usage.  OK, but that's not a
critique of what I propose.

Also I would say that Miller is the Ideologue here,
far more than I am.  He has a knee-jerk negativity to
anything modernist and certainly to some vague notion
of what passes for art education today, particularly
in college-level art curricula.  All I can say to that
is it's an attitude without evidence.  Modernism is
saturated with art tradition; in fact, modernism
relies on art tradition and would be insensible
without it. Also, any look at art programs, easily
obtained with some web surfing, will show
extraordinary breadth among competing porgrams. 
Clearly, there's something suited to any student's
interest among the plethora of options today (unlike,
I may add, the Academic era of art training in the
18-19C).

Yes, I am a huge fan of David, ever since I had the
opportunity to see his retrospective at the Louvre a
dozen years or more ago.  He was a painter's painter,
for sure, with his robust handling of pigment, blunt,
unfussy compositions, and a remarkably confident
manner.  Yes, some of his big official compositions,
like his Coronation of Napoleon, are quite
illustrational, but then that was the goal in those
days before photo documentation.  He did his job in
those instances, as did Velasquez and Goya and other
greats who are still admired as masters.
Take a close look at the David Oath of The Horatii at
the Met (is that right?) It's brushy, thickly painted.
forceful.  Don't be fooled by the abuse of David in
old fashioned art history books where he's presented
as a foil for introducing anti-academic
experimentation (Delacroix, etc).  I was transfixed by
David's first Death of Marat, rarely exhibited,
because it was so deftly painted, much of the flesh of
Marat being only the underpainting, applied with a
sponge.  Yes, we must rise above the art historical
categories, the tricks that separate artists from the
historical flow to enable the forefronting of ideas
over facts.   And since I mentioned Delacroix, if you
get the chance to visit the Yale Museum of Art you'll
see a superb "academic" portrait by the master.  You
won't forget its presentation of the moment, the
precise moment of consciousness of the "frozen right
now", fusing spectator and painting in a sphere of
infinitude.  This was Delacroix's notion of the
classic, the frozen moment, so he was simultaneously a
revolutionary and traditional artist.  And that's the
common trait among all great artists and their best
work.

I've got a nice book of Manship's work.  I'll agree
that some of his sculpture transcends the confinement
of stylization.  There's a standing nude, and some
animal pieces.  I'll back down on Manship.  After all,
he did do the work.  Yet I'm reminded of Delacroix's
admonition to unambitious fellow artists: "They do not
even wish to be Rubens".  The artist's frustration and
madness is to aim high, very, very high, and yet
accept the limitations of one's ability to to make the
most of it.  It's called the pursuit of excellence.

WC


> 
> I'm raising the issue of ideology -- because I
> suspect that's really what's
> behind the differences between WC and I regarding
> Manship, Art Deco, and the
> 19th C. Academy System.  The imaginative arts are

> "excellent". (and curiously -- I can't recall him
> ever speaking of any
> canonical modern artist with the same reverence he
> seems to have for Jacques
> Louis David, that paragon of French Academicism)

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