I said as much re the teacher teaching different tastes. Taste is not necessarily limited to persoanlisms. Taste is a social code, too. The Renaissance artists liked to show off their skills with perspective. It had art snob appeal. When Ucello becames obsessed with it and spent his time drawing intricate objects in detailed geo-perspective, Donatello said he was losing his art. Of course, Donatello could do perspective stuff in his sleep.
Now, mixing pigments may exclude taste to a large degree. In fact, I used to preach against subjective color names, like "sky" blue. Obviously, there is no spcific color that is "sky". There are many different blues and all of them can be identified in purely descriptive terms pertaining to hue, value, saturation. I would teach my painting students to match any color they saw (and most colors in nature are rather vague) in minutes. 1. Is it essentially red, yellow, or blue? All color has one predominant hue. 2. What is its value, its lightness (toward white) or darkness (toward black)? 3. To what extent is the color reduced or neutralized from full saturation (the amount it is grayed by its opposite color. A basic recipe could be used using estimated percentages of those 3 steps. Other ways to the same end involve underpainting, layering, glazing. What is done with the color is primarily a matter of taste. WC --- Mike Mallory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But isn't linear perspective better described as a > learned model for > encoding and decoding visual images rather than a > matter of taste. One > could teach Western perspectives to an art student > even though the teacher > preferred, as a matter of taste, an Asian > perspectival approach which does > not diminish the size of the elements upon distance. > > Mike Mallory > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William Conger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:54 PM > Subject: Re: What does the art teacher see ? > > > >I must interject here to say that the usual > vanishing > > point perspective is a visual code that reflects a > > "taste" or preference for one particular way to > > project 3-d space on a flat surface. Perspective > is > > not science or truth re vision. It is a system > based > > in geometry. It is false in demonstrating > reality, > > even if we close one eye. (I've commented on how > we > > really see before, citing professional sources, > but am > > always ignored). > > > > The rail tracks do not meet in the distance except > in > > perspectival, fantasy space. The tops of level > > buildings don't tilt to the ground. People in the > > distance are not really tiny. I agree with Miller > > here. You can't exclude taste from art > instruction, > > even if you teach one taste today and another > > tomorrow. There are other perspective systems that > > don't rely on the vanishing point. It depends on > your > > taste. > > > > WC > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> I'll keep this short, making myself stick to one > >> example. > >> > >> When I was a boy the only "artists" I was > familiar > >> with were Hal Foster, > >> Milton Caniff, Alex Raymond, Willy Pogany, Al > >> Hirschfeld, Norman Rockwell, and, > >> thanks to the library, George Bridgman. (You have > to > >> forgive me a little bit > >> because I lived in a small Connecticut community > >> with no art school and not > >> even a museum.) > >> > >> I wanted to do what those "artists" did. So I > went > >> to that good old library > >> and took out books on "drawing". One of the > things > >> I learned with happy > >> astonishment was the "laws" of perspective. (They > >> were much easier to learn than > >> Bridgman's "The Seven Law of Folds".) > >> > >> Here's my question for Chris. Given my philosophy > of > >> language positions, I > >> grant you can inflate the word 'taste' to cover > damn > >> near anything, but with > >> your honest notion of "taste" I ask this: > >> Accepting that many art schools > >> have quickie courses on perspective, do you > really > >> believe that all the art > >> schools ever teach is "taste"? > >> > >> > >> ************** > >> Planning your summer road trip? Check > >> out AOL Travel Guides. > >> > >> > > > (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016)
