Someone has already shown how Winnicott's are not Platonist. I'll have to look it up, though. It's in the Introduction of a book I've just read. Gulp! A weakening short term memory?
As for Damasio, I apparently wasn't thinking! Regarding your explanations: Touble is, they are explanations whereas the "precognitive" or the subconscious can't be explained, except unknowingly by metaphor. All that Catholic learning is responsible for your habit to explain the mysterious as if it were causal -- or something like what you said. In other words, what you say might be true, true enough to reveal its falsity. WC --- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael Brady <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Michael Brady <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Work creates the taste > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 12:27 PM > On Jan 16, 2009, at 11:26 AM, William Conger wrote: > > > You can't think your way to the aesthetic. > > What he said. > > Otherwise, you're practicing Platonism, projecting an > individual phenomenon (the aesthetic work) from a > transcendent ideal (the aesthetic). I think Platonism is > fundamentally, basically, essentially wrong. > > > The aesthetic is not reasonable or rational. > > Wellll. If Damasio is right, the aesthetic as an emotional > experience participates in reason. > > > I'm not at all sure why we expect works of art, of > any medium, to produce the aesthetic response, any more than > any other experience. > > I suspect our expectations arise from two motives. One is > simply a matter of our acculturation: we have learned from > our youth that certain emotions or feelings arise from, and > indeed are in some poorly understood way part of, many > things and events of life. The other is our own individual > sensorial and emotional experiences: We have learned over > the years that certain perceptions are accompanied by > certain feelings, typically some kind of satisfaction (a > filling up) or harmony (a pleasing co-occurrence). Some > feelings seem intractably fused with the stimulus, while > similar feelings in other context don't seem that fused > or can be separated from the stimulus. Fashion acts in this > way. > > > | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | > Michael Brady > [email protected]
