>" But when I realize that you're only trying to depreciate those who take him
at face
value, to make them out as dupes of the educational system and as fools who
actually read and make art, I know your agenda.  If you had had an education
you might have learned that it is more convincing to examine arguments on
their
merits, within the proper context, than it is to make up ignorant and foolish
remarks about them, especially when you are pretending to reveal obvious
flaws,
 even when learned scholars over the past century have not mentioned them."
... WC



I suppose this is the kind of discourse for which Cheerskep has coined the
phrase "squabble-talk".

But it does invite me to introduce a distinction which I consider very
important:

Education versus indoctrination.

In his post of July 5 (copied below),  William was playing indoctrinator, as
he presented Worringer's place in the currently peer-approved discourse of
Modern Art. (or -- at least his version of it) -- and it reflected  no
especially original or critical thought on his part. (i.e., without the two
sentences that follow the word "personally", and with a few foot-notes
attached, it would be perfectly acceptable to the legions of docile high
school editors who serve  Wikipedia

Apparently it never occurred to William that Lee's and Lipps notions of
"empathy" may well have encompassed  a response to geometry, and when I
pointed out that Worringer himself raised this issue ( regarding how ancient
Egyptians may have responded to their pyramids) William had nothing to say.
He probably had never thought about it (and he's not  going to start thinking
about it now!)

Indoctrination received --- indoctrination transmitted --- process complete.

And now you can drink your Kool-Aid.

 (Google "Jim Jones Massacre", Boris, to discover  Michael's invariably
sarcastic reference)







>In his 1908 essay, Abstraction and Empathy, Worringer offers a further
refinement of physchological approaches to aesthetics and art that tended to
center on empathy alone. Whereas other philosophers, like Vernon Lee and
Theodor Lipps, claimed that empathy was the projection of the ego into an
artwork -- as in "losing oneself in the work" to enjoy, to be at one with its
vicarious imitation of nature's vitality, Worringer added an opposing notion,
abstraction, to account for the withdrawal of the ego from nature's
incomprehensible complexity to the safe haven of regular, static, ideal
geometry.  Worringer concluded that both approaches are fundamental to self
affirmation and enable what he called "self privation", empathy being the
projection of self (metaphorically and as-if the other) and abstraction being
the escape from the "arbitrariness of organic existence" to ideal, permanent
form (metaphorically, and as if the immutable and perfect).

Worringer was not only contributing to the philosophy of aesthetics, he was
also offering coherence to the fracturing art concepts of the 20c. He
recognized that the rules of artistic imitation based on skill and faithful
rendering of nature -- and the canonic Western tradition -- were being
strongly affected by a new psychologial expressiveness that led to a broad
"naturalism" as well as by the influences of Oriental traditions and   even
primitive traditions of geometric patterning and abstract symbols. thus
Worringer was explaining the new style, the new contemporary scene.

Worringer had enormous influence on the later developments in art and
aesthetics.  The critical examination of much 20C art would be hobbled
without
his concepts.  There are analogous approaches in art criticism in the work of
Camille Pagila, for example, who uses the terms Dionysian and Apollonian that
correspond to empathy and abstraction, respectively.

Today we might find problems with Worringer's mutually exclusive empathy and
abstraction, however much they unite in his notion of self-privation. New
neuroscience claims an entangled feedback looping for our thinking that makes
polarities like Worringer's impossible, as Damasio does in conflating reason
and feeling, or as Lakoff and Johnson do in conflating brain and mind.

Further, whereas Worringer chose imitation and empathy as clearly fundamental
to human nature, and beyond art he is less assertive about the impulse for
abstraction, which in his hierarchy of mind, is a retreat from empathy, new
neuroscience shows that people born blind, thus without any visual
experience,
can draw fundamentqal geometic patterns they "see". Research seems to confirm
that our fundamental cognition is made up of such simple patterns -- but
still
patterns infused with empathy.

At any rate, there is much to admire in Worringer's essay.  Personally, I
think artists have not yet fully explored the aesthetic potentials of a fully
integrated empathy-abstraction style that fuses the polarity and thus reveals
the paradox of art.  It's only possible in make-believe, as-if, metaphor, and
the meaninglessness of form in itself.
 WC


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