Michael writes:

"words, artifacts, and utterances contain formal configurations that 
persist and convey their "meaning." The tube of paint contains stuff that 
conveys 
"redness" to the viewer."

I'm not at all sure I get what's on Michael's mind here, but here's what 
comes to my mind as I read those lines.

To go to the second line first: I don't question that a tube of red paint 
contains chemical stuff ("formal configurations"?) such that, when it is 
looked at through the eyes of normally-sighted people, light rays impinge on 
the 
retina and the retina sends nerve impulses deeper into the brain where they 
are processed by the brain in such a way that the raw sensation that we 
call "red" arises in the minds of those "normal" observers. (I go along with 
Michael in ignoring the responses of "abnormal" people. I grant much of 
philosophical interest may be said about the responses of blind or color-blind 
people, but I think we can propound some implications of the reaction of normal 
eyes that are not disproven or rendered vacuous by the responses of 
abnormal eyes.)   

But I myself would not call that red sensation the "meaning" of the paint, 
any more than I'd call pain the "meaning" of a touched flame, or the taste 
of chocolate the "meaning" of that brown candy on my desk. 

Perhaps Michael would say that the more pertinent comparison to sight is 
sound. 

On the other hand, though the word 'meaning' is used repeatedly on the 
forum I haven't seen any successful effort to describe the notion a lister has 
in mind as he uses that word. In my next posting I'll try my unsure hand at 
that - and I'll bring sound into it.

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