all that is real is your subjectivity - which you dare not test - or
question - because of you did so who you are would be unstable -  this is
the appeal of art as the affirmation of that which is nothing varifiable

On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, ARMANDO BAEZA <[email protected]>wrote:

> Describing significant form, to me is more difficult that creating
> what I
> would call  significant form.
> Armando Baeza
>
> ________________________________
> From: William Conger <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: is list dead?
>
> I'm not upset
> by that.
>
> Read my essay.  I argue that the word moral and its implications was
> dropped
> after the early modernists talked about formalist theory, art for
> art's sake,
> the significant form, etc. but their ideas were precisely the
> same as those
> embedded in the Beaux-Arts Style.  In that way, the supposed
> break between
> Beaux-Arts and modernism was as much manufactured as it was
> true, maybe more
> manufactured.  The art of the two types looks different but
> was it truly
> different in fundamental theory?  Words like moral became taboo
> in serious art
> talk.  But to say the same thing with other words, like
> 'significant form' was
> accepted, and still is.
> wc
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message
> ----
> From: Slostrow2 <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sun, July 29, 2012 7:46:44 PM
> Subject:
> Re: is list dead?
>
> Bur levy Strauss would tell us that this is merely a
> fetishisation of self
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Please excuse grammar and spelling
> errors
> Expect everything - fear nothing - or did I get that backwards
> Saul
> ostrow
> 646 528 8537
>
> On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:29 PM, William Conger
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > For the practitioners of the Style, form
> could be moral when it idealized
> > nature, especially the human form. Religion
> refers to theological dogma and
> > practice of worship according to prescribed
> rites.  I think the Style was
> > 'spiritual' intended
> >
> > wc
> >
> > ----- Original
> Message ----
> > From: joseph berg <[email protected]>
> > To:
> [email protected]
> > Sent: Sun, July 29, 2012 3:32:12 AM
> > Subject:
> Re: is list dead?
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:52 AM, William Conger
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> >
> >> ...I've written about this topic: Can Art
> Be Moral Again?  (published on
> >> website www.neotericart.com)...
> >
> >
> >
> > Once
> upon a time, wasn't religion the source of morals?:
> >
> > - Cut off from the
> worship of the divine, leisure becomes laziness and work
> > inhuman.
> >
> > John
> Piper
>
>


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