Since the essence is unreachable, that is all that is humanly possible. I'm satisfied with unstableness others may perceive in in their minds. Armando Baeza
________________________________ From: saul ostrow <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:43 PM Subject: Re: is list dead? all that is real is your subjectivity - which you dare not test - or question - because of you did so who you are would be unstable - this is the appeal of art as the affirmation of that which is nothing varifiable On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 9:17 PM, ARMANDO BAEZA <[email protected]>wrote: > Describing significant form, to me is more difficult that creating > what I > would call significant form. > Armando Baeza > > ________________________________ > From: William Conger <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 5:57 PM > Subject: Re: is list dead? > > I'm not upset > by that. > > Read my essay. I argue that the word moral and its implications was > dropped > after the early modernists talked about formalist theory, art for > art's sake, > the significant form, etc. but their ideas were precisely the > same as those > embedded in the Beaux-Arts Style. In that way, the supposed > break between > Beaux-Arts and modernism was as much manufactured as it was > true, maybe more > manufactured. The art of the two types looks different but > was it truly > different in fundamental theory? Words like moral became taboo > in serious art > talk. But to say the same thing with other words, like > 'significant form' was > accepted, and still is. > wc > > > > ----- Original Message > ---- > From: Slostrow2 <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sun, July 29, 2012 7:46:44 PM > Subject: > Re: is list dead? > > Bur levy Strauss would tell us that this is merely a > fetishisation of self > > Sent from my iPhone > Please excuse grammar and spelling > errors > Expect everything - fear nothing - or did I get that backwards > Saul > ostrow > 646 528 8537 > > On Jul 29, 2012, at 8:29 PM, William Conger > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > For the practitioners of the Style, form > could be moral when it idealized > > nature, especially the human form. Religion > refers to theological dogma and > > practice of worship according to prescribed > rites. I think the Style was > > 'spiritual' intended > > > > wc > > > > ----- Original > Message ---- > > From: joseph berg <[email protected]> > > To: > [email protected] > > Sent: Sun, July 29, 2012 3:32:12 AM > > Subject: > Re: is list dead? > > > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 2:52 AM, William Conger > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > >> ...I've written about this topic: Can Art > Be Moral Again? (published on > >> website www.neotericart.com)... > > > > > > > > Once > upon a time, wasn't religion the source of morals?: > > > > - Cut off from the > worship of the divine, leisure becomes laziness and work > > inhuman. > > > > John > Piper > > -- S a u l O s t r o w *Critical Voices* 21STREETPROJECTS 162 West 21 Street NYC, NY 10011
