Submarine at depth.
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From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 4:07 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator
With no metal ores.. I read somewhere about a miner getting killed by a
surface lightning strike...
Robert
On 10/15/2018 01:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
A cave.
*From:* can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 2:16 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator
Then someone needs to make better surge protection!
On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 4:14 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
“Caution: no surge protector can protect against a direct lightning
strike.”____
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http://www.connectronics.com/48VDC%20Power%20Protection/____
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*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 12:05 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator____
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*nods* That's why I'm all about DC and SFP... you can be much more
aggressive on DC power protection because you don't have to worry
about data errors.
Are there self-resettable suppressors that are able to stop
anything? Seems like a good addition to a DC-fed expensive radio.____
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*From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Monday, October 15, 2018 12:01:30 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator____
I think I’ve only had 2 licensed radios zapped (same event), and
when I had them repaired, it was the power supply section that took
the damage. So even with optical data and DC power, I’d say a
lightning protector on the power input at the radio is recommended.
The good news is there are less constraints building a good DC power
protector because you don’t have to worry about affecting the
Ethernet data. Just a gas tube and some husky MOVs or something
along those lines. Probably the only good thing from my Purewave
adventure is they told me they had basestations getting fried by
lightning until they started telling customers to install a DC
protector and that solved the issue.____
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*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2018 10:10 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator____
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SFPs and DC! ;-)____
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Mike Hammett
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*From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
*To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:23:50 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator____
I learned the hard way that having a complete spare link on the
shelf isn’t necessarily good enough, since a lightning strike at a
tower is likely to take out several HIGH or several LOW radios, not
one HIGH and one LOW.____
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*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:09 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator____
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624mbps in a 80MHz channel, ACM, copper gigabit port. The DT version
is a little over twice that for double the throughput and dual SFP
slots.____
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I used to be able to get a SIAE ALFOplus link for the same price as
the ST, now it's closer to $7k - and you need a full set to spare
it. The Bridgewave has user replaceable / reversable diplexers,
which is huge IMO. ____
On Tuesday, October 9, 2018, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
wrote:____
Mind sharing the specs (throughput, channel size, etc) of the ST
model for a super lazy person like myself?____
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 5:27 PM Jason McKemie
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:____
I just got a quote yesterday, the ST model was around d $4k
a link with full licenses. The DT model was about twice that.
On Tuesday, October 9, 2018, Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:____
Yea, no. I’m not sure if I can release pricing but
figure somewhere around $10-$12k with antennas depending
on options. If you double up the radios, even more.____
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Rory____
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*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of
*Josh Baird
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 1:54 PM
*To:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator____
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~$4k was the price that I heard originally.____
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 4:28 PM Rory Conaway
<r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:____
I have 2 of the units. They second antenna showed
up today so they are going up on Monday.____
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Depends on what you think the price is.____
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Rory____
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*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Josh Baird
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 1:17 PM
*To:* AFMUG
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator____
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I heard that some people have beta units.. I have
also heard the price is NOT what everyone thought it
would be.____
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 3:32 PM Joe Novak
<jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:____
Everyone was talking about it at the Spring
show. ____
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If it's not actually in the wild yet I start to
question it's existence. ____
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Joe____
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On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 2:23 PM Jason McKemie
<j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:____
I'm not sure if there are any out in the
wild as of yet. ____
If so, is anyone using these? Thoughts?____
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The features look good, and pricing is
pretty aggressive.____
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-Jason____
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