We have an attorney that's pretty versatile. But we are a small town. What type attorney is needed here, is this basic law or would we need to look at some special communications 300 dollar a minute slick suit
On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 11:51 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] wrote: > In a previous life I regularly had to sign NDAs, most of them weren’t > worth paying the lawyers to review. My rule of thumb FWIW was if the > agreement was reciprocal and symmetric, it was OK. Otherwise, pay the > lawyers. But of course I am not a lawyer, and may be wrong, and your > lawyer would definitely say I am wrong, because of course you shouldn’t get > out of bed in the morning without paying a lawyer to say it was safe. > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2018 10:45 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path > > > > So, I'm going to have to sign an NDA, so I assume that means I can't reach > out publicly for advice anymore, never been under NDA on a serious matter > before. Prior to signing, is this a matter we should grab the attorney to > represent us or just to have review paperwork? So far it's very amicable, > confirmed that our licensed link is toast in 7 months. I think I have a > very viable solution for everyone (there is another parallel link affected > that's someone else's that terminates near us on both sides) I've heard the > best legal term (make whole) and a risky term (cost sharing) so..... > > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 9:55 PM Lewis Bergman <[email protected] > wrote: > > I think you'll find the construction company to be flexible if you reach > out to them early enough. You have to go directly to the company building > the farm. > > > > On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:40 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yeah, there is usually an internal person or maybe an external consultant > working those kinds of planning issues. You want to find out who that is > and make contact with that person. Not the people they send to public > meetings to deal with the anti windfarm elements of the community, who will > likely be marketing types and lawyers. > > > > If they have signed leases with landowners and planned the routes for the > power network, they have a certain amount of flexibility in placing the > turbines. Moving one of them 100 feet left or right but still on the same > piece of land where have a lease may not be that difficult at the paper > stage. Finding a different parcel of land to lease or deleting the turbine > entirely, unlikely. > > > > Some people will fight them no matter what and claim their livestock are > falling over dead and their children are sick due to the turbines. > Cropdusters will be unhappy. And if I had built my dream home on a little > “farmette” to retire on, I wouldn’t want one of those behemoths 1400 feet > away, flashing red all night, and sounding like a washing machine when I’m > downwind of it. But there’s not much they can do about a lot of that. > When there is something they can reasonably do to mollify the citizenry, > like stop certain turbines at certain times of day because someone > complained about “shadow flicker”, I have seen them do it. So trying not > to block microwave links between towers is something they may be willing > to do. In fact, even if you do nothing, they may hire someone to look at > the FCC database and find any licensed paths that go through the proposed > windfarm, and choose their sites accordingly. > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Brian Webster > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:50 PM > > > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path > > > > I know I did some consulting to map out the paths where there were > licensed microwave links years ago. They do consider this in their > placement of the turbines. I am not sure of their obligation to do so. This > may have been a local zoning requirement more than anything. > > > > Thank You, > > Brian Webster > > 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > www.Broadband-Mapping.com > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On > Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:08 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path > > > > The FCC license protects against RF interference, not trees or highrise > buildings or wind turbines. And there’s nothing Commsearch can do. > > > > You are lucky that it’s an FCC licensed path, and I would absolutely > approach them now in the planning phase. When the windfarm Mike references > was built in our area, they voluntarily moved one of the turbines to get it > out of the path of a licensed backhaul. They probably won’t do this for an > unlicensed path or a subscriber link. Also the phase where they are most > likely to make such an accommodation is during the planning and approval > phase. Least impact on them at that point, and they are motivated to > resolve community resistance to their project where possible. I don’t > think they are required to accommodate you, so I wouldn’t go charging in > guns blazing, be nice and hope they are nice back. > > > > The towers obviously are more of a problem than the blades, but the blades > do affect the RF when they pass through the beam, especially if there are > multiple turbines in the path. I figure a couple dB blip per turbine but > it’s hard to predict scientifically. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:43 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path > > > > Are you wanting Commscope to go put some C4 on that turbine? :-p > > > Ken, what did you do when they built that Shabonna\Lee windfarm? I know > you had some links down there. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > > *Midwest Internet Exchange* > > *The Brothers WISP* > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Steve Jones" <*[email protected]*> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <*[email protected]*> > *Sent: *Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:39:26 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path > > We have a windfarm going up that was , one of the turbines is dead in the > middle of an 11ghz link path. Who do we reach out to for this. We have > commsearch protection service, I reached out to them, but im not sure thats > in the protection scope. Im leery of reaching out to the windfarm directly, > as they may lawyer up before we get our recourse figured out. As I > understand it they are in the impact study phase still, so i assume that > means our window of opportunity closes when that is done. > > Any advice? > > > -- > AF mailing list > *[email protected]* > *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* > > > > -- > AF mailing list > *[email protected]* > *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* > > -- > AF mailing list > *[email protected]* > *http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com* > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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