My experience nitrites Ken's. On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 12:52 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> We have an attorney that's pretty versatile. But we are a small town. What > type attorney is needed here, is this basic law or would we need to look at > some special communications 300 dollar a minute slick suit > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 11:51 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected] wrote: > >> In a previous life I regularly had to sign NDAs, most of them weren’t >> worth paying the lawyers to review. My rule of thumb FWIW was if the >> agreement was reciprocal and symmetric, it was OK. Otherwise, pay the >> lawyers. But of course I am not a lawyer, and may be wrong, and your >> lawyer would definitely say I am wrong, because of course you shouldn’t get >> out of bed in the morning without paying a lawyer to say it was safe. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Friday, December 21, 2018 10:45 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path >> >> >> >> So, I'm going to have to sign an NDA, so I assume that means I can't >> reach out publicly for advice anymore, never been under NDA on a serious >> matter before. Prior to signing, is this a matter we should grab the >> attorney to represent us or just to have review paperwork? So far it's very >> amicable, confirmed that our licensed link is toast in 7 months. I think I >> have a very viable solution for everyone (there is another parallel link >> affected that's someone else's that terminates near us on both sides) I've >> heard the best legal term (make whole) and a risky term (cost sharing) >> so..... >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 9:55 PM Lewis Bergman <[email protected] >> wrote: >> >> I think you'll find the construction company to be flexible if you reach >> out to them early enough. You have to go directly to the company building >> the farm. >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:40 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Yeah, there is usually an internal person or maybe an external consultant >> working those kinds of planning issues. You want to find out who that is >> and make contact with that person. Not the people they send to public >> meetings to deal with the anti windfarm elements of the community, who will >> likely be marketing types and lawyers. >> >> >> >> If they have signed leases with landowners and planned the routes for the >> power network, they have a certain amount of flexibility in placing the >> turbines. Moving one of them 100 feet left or right but still on the same >> piece of land where have a lease may not be that difficult at the paper >> stage. Finding a different parcel of land to lease or deleting the turbine >> entirely, unlikely. >> >> >> >> Some people will fight them no matter what and claim their livestock are >> falling over dead and their children are sick due to the turbines. >> Cropdusters will be unhappy. And if I had built my dream home on a little >> “farmette” to retire on, I wouldn’t want one of those behemoths 1400 feet >> away, flashing red all night, and sounding like a washing machine when I’m >> downwind of it. But there’s not much they can do about a lot of that. >> When there is something they can reasonably do to mollify the citizenry, >> like stop certain turbines at certain times of day because someone >> complained about “shadow flicker”, I have seen them do it. So trying not >> to block microwave links between towers is something they may be willing >> to do. In fact, even if you do nothing, they may hire someone to look at >> the FCC database and find any licensed paths that go through the proposed >> windfarm, and choose their sites accordingly. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Brian Webster >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:50 PM >> >> >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path >> >> >> >> I know I did some consulting to map out the paths where there were >> licensed microwave links years ago. They do consider this in their >> placement of the turbines. I am not sure of their obligation to do so. This >> may have been a local zoning requirement more than anything. >> >> >> >> Thank You, >> >> Brian Webster >> >> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd. >> >> www.wirelessmapping.com >> >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >> >> >> >> *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:08 AM >> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path >> >> >> >> The FCC license protects against RF interference, not trees or highrise >> buildings or wind turbines. And there’s nothing Commsearch can do. >> >> >> >> You are lucky that it’s an FCC licensed path, and I would absolutely >> approach them now in the planning phase. When the windfarm Mike references >> was built in our area, they voluntarily moved one of the turbines to get it >> out of the path of a licensed backhaul. They probably won’t do this for an >> unlicensed path or a subscriber link. Also the phase where they are most >> likely to make such an accommodation is during the planning and approval >> phase. Least impact on them at that point, and they are motivated to >> resolve community resistance to their project where possible. I don’t >> think they are required to accommodate you, so I wouldn’t go charging in >> guns blazing, be nice and hope they are nice back. >> >> >> >> The towers obviously are more of a problem than the blades, but the >> blades do affect the RF when they pass through the beam, especially if >> there are multiple turbines in the path. I figure a couple dB blip per >> turbine but it’s hard to predict scientifically. >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:43 AM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path >> >> >> >> Are you wanting Commscope to go put some C4 on that turbine? :-p >> >> >> Ken, what did you do when they built that Shabonna\Lee windfarm? I know >> you had some links down there. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> >> *Midwest Internet Exchange* >> >> *The Brothers WISP* >> >> >> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> ------------------------------ >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> *From: *"Steve Jones" <*[email protected]*> >> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <*[email protected]*> >> *Sent: *Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:39:26 AM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> >> We have a windfarm going up that was , one of the turbines is dead in the >> middle of an 11ghz link path. Who do we reach out to for this. We have >> commsearch protection service, I reached out to them, but im not sure thats >> in the protection scope. Im leery of reaching out to the windfarm directly, >> as they may lawyer up before we get our recourse figured out. 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