NDA....like in case you bump into secret wind turbine information?
Or more like, they'll make some remedy for you to make you whole, but
don't want every other swingin dick on the block to come around looking
for the same deal after the fact so keep your fool mouth shut.
On 12/21/2018 11:45 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
So, I'm going to have to sign an NDA, so I assume that means I can't
reach out publicly for advice anymore, never been under NDA on a
serious matter before. Prior to signing, is this a matter we should
grab the attorney to represent us or just to have review paperwork? So
far it's very amicable, confirmed that our licensed link is toast in 7
months. I think I have a very viable solution for everyone (there is
another parallel link affected that's someone else's that terminates
near us on both sides) I've heard the best legal term (make whole) and
a risky term (cost sharing) so.....
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 9:55 PM Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
I think you'll find the construction company to be flexible if you
reach out to them early enough. You have to go directly to the
company building the farm.
On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:40 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Yeah, there is usually an internal person or maybe an external
consultant working those kinds of planning issues. You want
to find out who that is and make contact with that person.
Not the people they send to public meetings to deal with the
anti windfarm elements of the community, who will likely be
marketing types and lawyers.
If they have signed leases with landowners and planned the
routes for the power network, they have a certain amount of
flexibility in placing the turbines. Moving one of them 100
feet left or right but still on the same piece of land where
have a lease may not be that difficult at the paper stage.
Finding a different parcel of land to lease or deleting the
turbine entirely, unlikely.
Some people will fight them no matter what and claim their
livestock are falling over dead and their children are sick
due to the turbines. Cropdusters will be unhappy. And if I
had built my dream home on a little “farmette” to retire on,
I wouldn’t want one of those behemoths 1400 feet away,
flashing red all night, and sounding like a washing machine
when I’m downwind of it. But there’s not much they can do
about a lot of that. When there is something they can
reasonably do to mollify the citizenry, like stop certain
turbines at certain times of day because someone complained
about “shadow flicker”, I have seen them do it. So trying not
to block microwave links between towers is something they may
be willing to do. In fact, even if you do nothing, they may
hire someone to look at the FCC database and find any licensed
paths that go through the proposed windfarm, and choose their
sites accordingly.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Brian Webster
*Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:50 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path
I know I did some consulting to map out the paths where there
were licensed microwave links years ago. They do consider this
in their placement of the turbines. I am not sure of their
obligation to do so. This may have been a local zoning
requirement more than anything.
Thank You,
Brian Webster
214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
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*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken
Hohhof
*Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:08 AM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path
The FCC license protects against RF interference, not trees or
highrise buildings or wind turbines. And there’s nothing
Commsearch can do.
You are lucky that it’s an FCC licensed path, and I would
absolutely approach them now in the planning phase. When the
windfarm Mike references was built in our area, they
voluntarily moved one of the turbines to get it out of the
path of a licensed backhaul. They probably won’t do this for
an unlicensed path or a subscriber link. Also the phase where
they are most likely to make such an accommodation is during
the planning and approval phase. Least impact on them at that
point, and they are motivated to resolve community resistance
to their project where possible. I don’t think they are
required to accommodate you, so I wouldn’t go charging in guns
blazing, be nice and hope they are nice back.
The towers obviously are more of a problem than the blades,
but the blades do affect the RF when they pass through the
beam, especially if there are multiple turbines in the path.
I figure a couple dB blip per turbine but it’s hard to predict
scientifically.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
*Sent:* Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:43 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path
Are you wanting Commscope to go put some C4 on that turbine? :-p
Ken, what did you do when they built that Shabonna\Lee
windfarm? I know you had some links down there.
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*Sent: *Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:39:26 AM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path
We have a windfarm going up that was , one of the turbines is
dead in the middle of an 11ghz link path. Who do we reach out
to for this. We have commsearch protection service, I reached
out to them, but im not sure thats in the protection scope. Im
leery of reaching out to the windfarm directly, as they may
lawyer up before we get our recourse figured out. As I
understand it they are in the impact study phase still, so i
assume that means our window of opportunity closes when that
is done.
Any advice?
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