I have signed many NDAs. No problems. I never worry about them.  You can still 
talk about the situation. Just don’t reveal info that you received from the 
other party that is: 1) new to you 2) not found via other means

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> On Dec 21, 2018, at 9:45 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> So, I'm going to have to sign an NDA, so I assume that means I can't reach 
> out publicly for advice anymore, never been under NDA on a serious matter 
> before. Prior to signing, is this a matter we should grab the attorney to 
> represent us or just to have review paperwork? So far it's very amicable, 
> confirmed that our licensed link is toast in 7 months. I think I have a very 
> viable solution for everyone (there is another parallel link affected that's 
> someone else's that terminates near us on both sides) I've heard the best 
> legal term (make whole) and a risky term (cost sharing) so.....
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018, 9:55 PM Lewis Bergman <[email protected] wrote:
>> I think you'll find the construction company to be flexible if you reach out 
>> to them early enough. You have to go directly to the company building the 
>> farm.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 2:40 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Yeah, there is usually an internal person or maybe an external consultant 
>>> working those kinds of planning issues.  You want to find out who that is 
>>> and make contact with that person.  Not the people they send to public 
>>> meetings to deal with the anti windfarm elements of the community, who will 
>>> likely be marketing types and lawyers.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> If they have signed leases with landowners and planned the routes for the 
>>> power network, they have a certain amount of flexibility in placing the 
>>> turbines.  Moving one of them  100 feet left or right but still on the same 
>>> piece of land where have a lease may not be that difficult at the paper 
>>> stage.  Finding a different parcel of land to lease or deleting the turbine 
>>> entirely, unlikely.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Some people will fight them no matter what and claim their livestock are 
>>> falling over dead and their children are sick due to the turbines.  
>>> Cropdusters will be unhappy.  And if I had built my dream home on a little 
>>> “farmette” to retire on,  I wouldn’t want one of those behemoths 1400 feet 
>>> away, flashing red all night,  and sounding like a washing machine when I’m 
>>> downwind of it.  But there’s not much they can do about a lot of that.  
>>> When there is something they can reasonably do to mollify the citizenry, 
>>> like stop certain turbines at certain times of day because someone 
>>> complained about “shadow flicker”, I have seen them do it.  So trying not 
>>> to block microwave links between towers is something they may be willing to 
>>>  do.  In fact, even if you do nothing, they may hire someone to look at the 
>>> FCC database and find any licensed paths that go through the proposed 
>>> windfarm, and choose their sites accordingly.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Webster
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 12:50 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> I know I did some consulting to map out the paths where there were licensed 
>>> microwave links years ago. They do consider this in their placement of the 
>>> turbines. I am not sure of their obligation to do so. This may have been a 
>>> local zoning requirement more than anything.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Thank You,
>>> 
>>> Brian Webster
>>> 
>>> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>>> 
>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>> 
>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 11:08 AM
>>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The FCC license protects against RF interference, not trees or highrise 
>>> buildings or wind turbines.  And there’s nothing Commsearch can do.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> You are lucky that it’s an FCC licensed path, and I would absolutely 
>>> approach them now in the planning phase.  When the windfarm Mike references 
>>> was built in our area, they voluntarily moved one of the turbines to get it 
>>> out of the path of a licensed backhaul.  They probably won’t do this for an 
>>> unlicensed path or a subscriber link.  Also the phase where they are most 
>>> likely to make such an accommodation is during the planning and approval 
>>> phase.  Least impact on them at that point, and they are motivated to 
>>> resolve community resistance to their project where possible.  I don’t 
>>> think they are required to accommodate you, so I wouldn’t go charging in 
>>> guns blazing, be nice and hope they are nice back.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> The towers obviously are more of a problem than the blades, but the blades 
>>> do affect the RF when they pass through the beam, especially if there are 
>>> multiple turbines in the path.  I figure a couple dB blip per turbine but 
>>> it’s hard to predict scientifically.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:43 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Are you wanting Commscope to go put some C4 on that turbine? :-p
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ken, what did you do when they built that Shabonna\Lee windfarm? I know you 
>>> had some links down there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> 
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>> 
>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2018 9:39:26 AM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path
>>> 
>>> We have a windfarm going up that was , one of the turbines is dead in the 
>>> middle of an 11ghz link path.  Who do we reach out to for this. We have 
>>> commsearch protection service, I reached out to them, but im not sure thats 
>>> in the protection scope. Im leery of reaching out to the windfarm directly, 
>>> as they may lawyer up before we get our recourse figured out. As I 
>>> understand it they are in the impact study phase still, so i assume that 
>>> means our window of opportunity closes when that is done. 
>>> 
>>> Any advice?
>>> 
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