Yep strand count is cheap. No reason to scrimp.

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> On Dec 22, 2018, at 9:06 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I could do it for myself for perhaps $100k but I have all the equipment. I 
> would charge $5/ft for plowing plus $1/ft for materials. So Colin is right in 
> the mark.
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>> On Dec 22, 2018, at 8:00 AM, Colin Stanners <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Depending on many variables, especially if you can plow some non-crossing 
>> lengths to save money, this will cost 1/4 to 1/3 million - the customer has 
>> the budget?
>> 
>> From those questions it sounds like your fist fiber build, so my 
>> recommendation would be to have an experienced contractor do the design and 
>> management, so that you don't miss something major (e.g. that a certain road 
>> is state RoW instead of town RoW for whatever reason, and it turns out that 
>> you not only need to get different authorizarion to install there, but they 
>> need your line below 5ft, so if you plowed your conduit in at 3ft before the 
>> govt figured out how to tell you that, you need to rip it all out and re-do 
>> it, with much more expensive drilling).
>> 
>> Also often experienced project managers have good hints like "if you can 
>> push your path one road over, most utilities aren't in there so you can save 
>> lots of money on not hydrovacing their lines and additional drill shots", or 
>> they know the unwritten processes to get maps of other utilities so you know 
>> where is easiest/cheapest to go. Also you would want to know how to register 
>> in your state CBYD membership and pay fees etc...
>> 
>> Drilling under creeks/major ditches, at least in our province, required 
>> permission from government waterways department, which is a long process 
>> that doesn't always say "yes" at the end. Also they may require certain 
>> depth or pipe wall thickness that would require you to rent a bigger, more 
>> expensive drill than what you expected/budgeted to use for the rest of the 
>> project.
>> 
>> A big increase in cable size will cost more to install due to time/effort 
>> manipulating the spools (possibly large costs if you change from "carry by 
>> hand" flat-drop 2ct size reels to "need to rent a toolcat for the whole 
>> project and clear a large area of brush so you can drive it in" 96ct reels) 
>> and additional difficulty/time jetting fiber into the conduit. Also for a 
>> big change you will need to switch the conduit and vaults (for slack 
>> storage) one size up, which adds costs up fast. Also a big change will take 
>> much longer to splice, so if you are splicing it every mile and at every 
>> creek crossing, that may double/triple your splicing costs.
>> 
>> There's more detail, that I don't want spend forever writing, our company 
>> has been doing an extensive variety of fiber deployment (in Manitoba, which 
>> has its share of ground and weather challenges) so if you want you can phone 
>> me at some point and we can talk.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 12:46 AM Steve Jones <[email protected] wrote:
>>> If a guy wanted to get fiber in the ground, non aerial between two 
>>> buildings to replace an existing licensed 1.3 gb link. Crosses 3 
>>> creek/ditches, 10 rural intersections, 10 rural town blocks. What would be 
>>> needed?
>>> I would guess that duct is the best thing to put it in, innerduct being 
>>> better. 
>>> I'd guess 96+ count isn't going to cost any more per strand to put in the 
>>> duct than 2 (not the cost of the fiber itself)
>>> Lots of dark strands and duct space is probably lucrative to have just in 
>>> case.
>>> Slack, handholes, vaults, etc, what would you put in there? 10 or so 
>>> customers on the path so not a ftth type thing.
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