We also usually install a second duct on all major routes. Chuck, with your long career, I assume that you've had a few cases where direct burial took a long time/difficulties to fix?
Now working in the long-distance/underground industry, doing all the planning and permitting, I've seen our guys pull up things - including a boulder the size of a car - from the ground so that they could get that conduit through. On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 10:48 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > I never do direct burial any more. Not even on drops. Generally I > install an extra duct, I like duralines future path products if I can > justify the expense. I need to learn how to install microduct into regular > duct. I am sure I can pull it but I would like to figure out how to blow > it. > > *From:* Colin Stanners > *Sent:* Saturday, December 22, 2018 9:42 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber > > I try hard to steer clear of direct-burying cable, which is much easier to > damage and extremely time-consuming to repair, unless it's a non-crucial > line (e.g. standard residential customer, although those we currently put > in conduit as well, to keep future risk and repair costs low). > > If this customer is paying 1/4 million to get a line installed, it's > probably crucial. One day when that line gets hit, if it's in conduit it's > likely possible to get it repaired within hours to a day. I've even heard > of cases of the fiber surviving a conduit-line hit since it's "loose" > inside the conduit and has slack at the ends. If a direct-buried line gets > hit, especially next to a road etc, it may be needed to get locates, > arrange a drill, electrical/gas line safety watch, etc, possibly even > arrange more permitting for a new vault, which will often move time to > repair to days or a week+. > > > On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:28 AM Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote: > >> Steve in our area we could do that "on the cheap" with 12 or 24 count >> cable direct buried for around 100k. There are so many variables though. >> You really need someone who has done work in that area and is familiar with >> permitting costs and requirements. I'd it's so rural that you can plow the >> bulk of it and you are OK with direct bury you can save a ton of money vs >> putting it all in duct. >> >> Personally I run at least 24 strands on any run that's going "somewhere". >> Dead end runs can be 12F. >> >> On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 1:46 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> If a guy wanted to get fiber in the ground, non aerial between two >>> buildings to replace an existing licensed 1.3 gb link. Crosses 3 >>> creek/ditches, 10 rural intersections, 10 rural town blocks. What would be >>> needed? >>> I would guess that duct is the best thing to put it in, innerduct being >>> better. >>> I'd guess 96+ count isn't going to cost any more per strand to put in >>> the duct than 2 (not the cost of the fiber itself) >>> Lots of dark strands and duct space is probably lucrative to have just >>> in case. >>> Slack, handholes, vaults, etc, what would you put in there? 10 or so >>> customers on the path so not a ftth type thing. >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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