I never do direct burial any more.  Not even on drops.  Generally I install an 
extra duct, I like duralines future path products if I can justify the expense. 
 I need to learn how to install microduct into regular duct.  I am sure I can 
pull it but I would like to figure out how to blow it.  

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2018 9:42 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

I try hard to steer clear of direct-burying cable, which is much easier to 
damage and extremely time-consuming to repair, unless it's a non-crucial line 
(e.g. standard residential customer, although those we currently put in conduit 
as well, to keep future risk and repair costs low).

If this customer is paying 1/4 million to get a line installed, it's probably 
crucial. One day when that line gets hit, if it's in conduit it's likely 
possible to get it repaired within hours to a day. I've even heard of cases of 
the fiber surviving a conduit-line hit since it's "loose" inside the conduit 
and has slack at the ends. If a direct-buried line gets hit, especially next to 
a road etc, it may be needed to get locates, arrange a drill, electrical/gas 
line safety watch, etc, possibly even arrange more permitting for a new vault, 
which will often move time to repair to days or a week+.


On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 9:28 AM Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:

  Steve in our area we could do that "on the cheap" with 12 or 24 count cable 
direct buried for around 100k. There are so many variables though. You really 
need someone who has done work in that area and is familiar with permitting 
costs and requirements. I'd it's so rural that you can plow the bulk of it and 
you are OK with direct bury you can save a ton of money vs putting it all in 
duct.   

  Personally I run at least 24 strands on any run that's going "somewhere". 
Dead end runs can be 12F. 

  On Sat, Dec 22, 2018, 1:46 AM Steve Jones <[email protected] wrote:

    If a guy wanted to get fiber in the ground, non aerial between two 
buildings to replace an existing licensed 1.3 gb link. Crosses 3 creek/ditches, 
10 rural intersections, 10 rural town blocks. What would be needed? 
    I would guess that duct is the best thing to put it in, innerduct being 
better. 
    I'd guess 96+ count isn't going to cost any more per strand to put in the 
duct than 2 (not the cost of the fiber itself)
    Lots of dark strands and duct space is probably lucrative to have just in 
case.
    Slack, handholes, vaults, etc, what would you put in there? 10 or so 
customers on the path so not a ftth type thing.
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