Well yeah, it never made sense to me that we would ship our trash all the way to China to be recycled. I agree with Bill, we need to do this ourselves. Although there are some pretty nice automated sorting facilities in this country, so it’s not like we don’t know HOW to do it. I think the biggest one is in Brooklyn, NY and is operated by Sims Municipal Recycling. I think Sims also has one of the contracts in Chicago and somehow doesn’t have nearly the problems with “contamination” that the other contractor does. Not that Chicago is a model for recycling. But I guess it’s hard to scold people for not recycling when they read that it all goes to the landfill anyway.
One thing I don’t understand – where does China get the raw materials for all the cardboard packaging they use to ship all their manufactured goods all over the world? Are they cutting down forests? Or they take in trash from other countries that sort it better? From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - cardboard manufacturing jobs come back Transportation is expensive no matter what the sector. That cost alone can make it a difficult to economically break even. On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 7:37 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: There are some claims that “contamination” is falsely claimed both by China and by waste haulers contracted by cities, for whom it is more profitable to haul it to the landfill. The BGA (Better Government Association) in Chicago did a report that found Waste Management had a far higher rate of rejecting recyclables than the other contracted private company or municipal crews. Also “contamination” brings a mental image of cans and pizza boxes covered with food, while apparently the biggest type of “contamination” is plastic bags like from grocery stores because they get caught in the sorting machinery. I used to throw those out in the trash until I realized most grocery stores have bins to recycle them. At least they claim to recycle them. And a factoid from the Internet, apparently we are supposed to leave the caps on pop/soda bottles when putting them in the recycling bin. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - cardboard manufacturing jobs come back Of course it's more complicated than that. I've been hearing and reading about this for the better part of a year now. One of the issues is that a lot of the recyclable material was considered too dirty. It hadn't been cleaned enough to recycle. At some point, we're going to have to learn how to do this ourselves. The landfills are all filling up. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 4:57 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-great-american-cardboard-comeback/ar-BBV5qRT China won’t take our recyclables, so the price of used cardboard has dropped enough this cardboard manufacturing plant can reopen. Which is good, not just for the jobs, but I’m tired of reading how we put out recycling in the blue bins and then they haul it to the dump or burn it because nobody wants it. Even aluminum cans. How can it not pay to melt down aluminum cans? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com <mailto:AF@af.afmug.com> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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