Those automated sorting machines are incredibly expensive. I bet they cost
a fortune to repair as well...
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bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}comOn Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 7:30 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > Well yeah, it never made sense to me that we would ship our trash all the > way to China to be recycled. I agree with Bill, we need to do this > ourselves. Although there are some pretty nice automated sorting > facilities in this country, so it’s not like we don’t know HOW to do it. I > think the biggest one is in Brooklyn, NY and is operated by Sims Municipal > Recycling. I think Sims also has one of the contracts in Chicago and > somehow doesn’t have nearly the problems with “contamination” that the > other contractor does. Not that Chicago is a model for recycling. But I > guess it’s hard to scold people for not recycling when they read that it > all goes to the landfill anyway. > > > > One thing I don’t understand – where does China get the raw materials for > all the cardboard packaging they use to ship all their manufactured goods > all over the world? Are they cutting down forests? Or they take in trash > from other countries that sort it better? > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman > *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2019 8:12 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - cardboard manufacturing jobs come back > > > > Transportation is expensive no matter what the sector. That cost alone can > make it a difficult to economically break even. > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2019, 7:37 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > There are some claims that “contamination” is falsely claimed both by > China and by waste haulers contracted by cities, for whom it is more > profitable to haul it to the landfill. The BGA (Better Government > Association) in Chicago did a report that found Waste Management had a far > higher rate of rejecting recyclables than the other contracted private > company or municipal crews. Also “contamination” brings a mental image of > cans and pizza boxes covered with food, while apparently the biggest type > of “contamination” is plastic bags like from grocery stores because they > get caught in the sorting machinery. I used to throw those out in the > trash until I realized most grocery stores have bins to recycle them. At > least they claim to recycle them. And a factoid from the Internet, > apparently we are supposed to leave the caps on pop/soda bottles when > putting them in the recycling bin. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Saturday, March 23, 2019 7:07 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT - cardboard manufacturing jobs come back > > > > Of course it's more complicated than that. I've been hearing and reading > about this for the better part of a year now. One of the issues is that a > lot of the recyclable material was considered too dirty. It hadn't been > cleaned enough to recycle. > > > > At some point, we're going to have to learn how to do this ourselves. The > landfills are all filling up. > > > -- > > bp > > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2019 at 4:57 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/the-great-american-cardboard-comeback/ar-BBV5qRT > > > > China won’t take our recyclables, so the price of used cardboard has > dropped enough this cardboard manufacturing plant can reopen. Which is > good, not just for the jobs, but I’m tired of reading how we put out > recycling in the blue bins and then they haul it to the dump or burn it > because nobody wants it. Even aluminum cans. How can it not pay to melt > down aluminum cans? > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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