Yeah, dropping the handhole would have been the deal breaker.
ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
None have applied. One close to 40 claimed to be a diesel mechanic
etc etc. He got here and he could not even diagnose trailer lights
properly, nor could he back up a truck connected to a trailer. Then
he got into a fist fight with another employee and dropped a handhole
on a guy in the ditch... He had the look of a tweaker to me.
*From:* Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Saturday, June 8, 2019 3:29 PM
*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills
Article in paper today says 50 and even 40 year olds are having
trouble finding jobs despite being qualified. The phone interview goes
fine, but at the in person interview they see how old the candidate is
and they want someone younger.
Maybe an opportunity to hire those over-the-hill 40-somethings.
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *dave
*Sent:* Friday, June 7, 2019 3:28 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills
LOL!
I can see that with some of the yonger generation of military.
I questioned almost everything when I was a PV2/E2 it was in our dna
As I become wiser and more intuitive it became clear :)
On 6/6/19 3:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
You do sometimes have to teach them not to blindly follow orders.
I worked at one company that hired several young military guys,
and we referred to them as the “hut hut hut” guys. If the boss
told them to take that hill, they would take that hill no matter
what, rather than question if the boss was maybe a pointy haired
moron.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atks5rRqQkg
*From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *dave
*Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:59 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills
Since I was a Full time and a Part time soldier I was brought up
with good values and the meaning of hard work even though I had
my spell of crazy young man days but I think my first Tour humbled
me a bit to understand Focus.
Now that i am older it seems my Focus on some days fails me and I
often wonder if there are younger more focused people to
sustain hard work when needed.
I strongly believe in the hard worker and the veterans returning
home looking to start a new.
On 6/5/19 12:00 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Or like me, I can fly a desk, but I’m afraid of heights and
that would be a problem if you hired me as an installer.
*From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of
*Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:01 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills
Indeed. For an installer, it seems to me that
construction-type experience is probably more valuable than
tech experience.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:21 AM Jay Weekley
<par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
Was he in the dilemma of trying to get a tech job without
experience but
couldn't experience without a job? I'm as interested in
someone that
knows a wood bit from a mortar bit as I am in someone that
can perform a
simple router setup.
Jerry Head wrote:
> Disagree.
> We hired an installer last year who just turned 18.
> He was one of three people (of 9 who answered the ad)
who showed up.
> We had a simple test of programming a XX-Link router.
> He failed.
> My network engineer said "Lets try him anyway".
> We did hire him and he has worked out really well.
> So there's that I guess.
>
>
> On 5/31/2019 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Anyone worth a crap is not out looking for a job these
days.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 30, 2019, at 10:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List
Account)
>>> <li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A couple of thoughts:
>>>
>>> Many of these type of people will be working on
something interesting
>>> in their own time. Maybe some probing questions
about what they
>>> have done on their own. Depending on what you're
looking for, things
>>> like 'have you ever played with an arduino? Raspberry
Pi? etc?'
>>> might help.
>>>
>>> Have you thought about what would have attracted you
to a job listing?
>>> That might be a good starting point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:28 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I was young I went exploring. I'd ask my mom if
I could go for a
>>>> bike ride. I never really specified where, and just
kept ranging
>>>> farther and farther from home. I'd end up in creeks,
culvert pipes,
>>>> climbing fences, walking through woods, construction
sites, quarries,
>>>> and basically anywhere else I didn't get kicked out
of. I got
>>>> there on
>>>> my bike so in terms of parental permission I put it
all under the
>>>> category of "going for a bike ride". I only got
arrested once, but I
>>>> probably deserved it a few more times.
>>>>
>>>> I also took things apart and used bits of wire and a
battery to play
>>>> with the components. At an early job they were
impressed that I
>>>> correctly used the word "potentiometer" in a
sentence. I also
>>>> plugged a
>>>> DC motor into a 120V AC outle --a valuable lesson
there. I also
>>>> melted a
>>>> NiCad battery on the carpet when I left it on the
charger too long.
>>>>
>>>> My hobbies included model trains and my RC car. I
could tell you the
>>>> difference between a parallel and series circuit when
I was 10. I
>>>> tagged
>>>> along with my brother when he went out shooting with
his Ruger
>>>> 10/22. I
>>>> slept out in the woods for the fun of it, and
sometimes didn't bring
>>>> anything but matches. Played with fireworks, made my
own fireworks
>>>> with
>>>> homemade black powder and/or match heads.
>>>>
>>>> My dad made me do drywall, set fence posts, change
the belt on a
>>>> lawnmower, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Every success and every failure contributed to a set
of skills that I
>>>> took for granted until I encountered people who
didn't have them.
>>>> Things
>>>> like spatial reasoning, basic electricity, use of
basic hand tools,
>>>> and
>>>> a general sense of time, distance, and direction.
>>>>
>>>> So the question for AFMUG is how do you find out
whether a job
>>>> applicant
>>>> is the curious explorer who wants to know how
everything works?
>>>> How do
>>>> I attract that applicant to begin with? I may want
specific skills
>>>> too
>>>> like a juggler who can juggle, but I really want
people who can figure
>>>> stuff out and won't be deterred by every little bump
in the road.
>>>>
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>>>
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