Sadly, eagle scout will soon have little to no value, reqs are on the decline, is the video gaming badge a thing yet?
On Thu, Jun 6, 2019, 4:03 PM [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > I got my first job out of college because I'm an Eagle Scout. The main > boss asked in the interview, > "What is your motto? Happy, Health, Horny?" > > On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 4:52 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Eagle Scouts, hams, farm kids, vets. All good indicators. >> >> *From:* Sean Heskett >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2019 2:47 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills >> >> the other issue we've had with military personnel is that in the military >> their boss is on a need to know basis (and therefore they don't always need >> to know stuff) because telling their boss something will sometimes land >> someone in hot water so it's just best not to tell anyone. no one wants >> their superior to suffer the wrath of the general etc. well, outside of >> the military that's a huge issue because sometimes they will hide really >> important info from you because they didn't want to inconvenience you with >> the truth which could cause problems...not realizing that withholding such >> information actually caused bigger problems. it's a hard habit to break >> them of. >> >> don't get me wrong, they are hard workers and will do just about anything >> you command them to do, but sometimes they'll leave you in the dark >> thinking they are doing you a favor. >> >> some of our best employees have been eagle scouts >> >> 2 cents >> >> -sean >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2019 at 2:04 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You do sometimes have to teach them not to blindly follow orders. I >>> worked at one company that hired several young military guys, and we >>> referred to them as the “hut hut hut” guys. If the boss told them to take >>> that hill, they would take that hill no matter what, rather than question >>> if the boss was maybe a pointy haired moron. >>> >>> >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atks5rRqQkg >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *dave >>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:59 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills >>> >>> >>> >>> Since I was a Full time and a Part time soldier I was brought up with >>> good values and the meaning of hard work even though I had >>> my spell of crazy young man days but I think my first Tour humbled me a >>> bit to understand Focus. >>> Now that i am older it seems my Focus on some days fails me and I often >>> wonder if there are younger more focused people to >>> sustain hard work when needed. >>> >>> I strongly believe in the hard worker and the veterans returning home >>> looking to start a new. >>> >>> >>> On 6/5/19 12:00 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> Or like me, I can fly a desk, but I’m afraid of heights and that would >>> be a problem if you hired me as an installer. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:01 AM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills >>> >>> >>> >>> Indeed. For an installer, it seems to me that construction-type >>> experience is probably more valuable than tech experience. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:21 AM Jay Weekley <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Was he in the dilemma of trying to get a tech job without experience but >>> couldn't experience without a job? I'm as interested in someone that >>> knows a wood bit from a mortar bit as I am in someone that can perform a >>> simple router setup. >>> >>> Jerry Head wrote: >>> > Disagree. >>> > We hired an installer last year who just turned 18. >>> > He was one of three people (of 9 who answered the ad) who showed up. >>> > We had a simple test of programming a XX-Link router. >>> > He failed. >>> > My network engineer said "Lets try him anyway". >>> > We did hire him and he has worked out really well. >>> > So there's that I guess. >>> > >>> > >>> > On 5/31/2019 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> >> Anyone worth a crap is not out looking for a job these days. >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >>> >>> On May 30, 2019, at 10:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) >>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> A couple of thoughts: >>> >>> >>> >>> Many of these type of people will be working on something interesting >>> >>> in their own time. Maybe some probing questions about what they >>> >>> have done on their own. Depending on what you're looking for, things >>> >>> like 'have you ever played with an arduino? Raspberry Pi? etc?' >>> >>> might help. >>> >>> >>> >>> Have you thought about what would have attracted you to a job >>> listing? >>> >>> That might be a good starting point. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:28 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> When I was young I went exploring. I'd ask my mom if I could go >>> for a >>> >>>> bike ride. I never really specified where, and just kept ranging >>> >>>> farther and farther from home. I'd end up in creeks, culvert pipes, >>> >>>> climbing fences, walking through woods, construction sites, >>> quarries, >>> >>>> and basically anywhere else I didn't get kicked out of. I got >>> >>>> there on >>> >>>> my bike so in terms of parental permission I put it all under the >>> >>>> category of "going for a bike ride". I only got arrested once, but >>> I >>> >>>> probably deserved it a few more times. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> I also took things apart and used bits of wire and a battery to play >>> >>>> with the components. At an early job they were impressed that I >>> >>>> correctly used the word "potentiometer" in a sentence. I also >>> >>>> plugged a >>> >>>> DC motor into a 120V AC outle --a valuable lesson there. I also >>> >>>> melted a >>> >>>> NiCad battery on the carpet when I left it on the charger too long. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> My hobbies included model trains and my RC car. I could tell you >>> the >>> >>>> difference between a parallel and series circuit when I was 10. I >>> >>>> tagged >>> >>>> along with my brother when he went out shooting with his Ruger >>> >>>> 10/22. I >>> >>>> slept out in the woods for the fun of it, and sometimes didn't bring >>> >>>> anything but matches. Played with fireworks, made my own fireworks >>> >>>> with >>> >>>> homemade black powder and/or match heads. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> My dad made me do drywall, set fence posts, change the belt on a >>> >>>> lawnmower, and so on. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Every success and every failure contributed to a set of skills that >>> I >>> >>>> took for granted until I encountered people who didn't have them. >>> >>>> Things >>> >>>> like spatial reasoning, basic electricity, use of basic hand tools, >>> >>>> and >>> >>>> a general sense of time, distance, and direction. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> So the question for AFMUG is how do you find out whether a job >>> >>>> applicant >>> >>>> is the curious explorer who wants to know how everything works? >>> >>>> How do >>> >>>> I attract that applicant to begin with? I may want specific skills >>> >>>> too >>> >>>> like a juggler who can juggle, but I really want people who can >>> figure >>> >>>> stuff out and won't be deterred by every little bump in the road. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> AF mailing list >>> >>>> [email protected] >>> >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> - Forrest >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> AF mailing list >>> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> *Jay Weekley* >>> *Cyber Broadband >>> * >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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