LOL!
I can see that with some of the yonger generation of military.
I questioned almost everything when I was a PV2/E2 it was in our dna
As I become wiser and more intuitive it became clear :)
On 6/6/19 3:03 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
You do sometimes have to teach them not to blindly follow orders. I
worked at one company that hired several young military guys, and we
referred to them as the “hut hut hut” guys. If the boss told them to
take that hill, they would take that hill no matter what, rather than
question if the boss was maybe a pointy haired moron.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atks5rRqQkg
*From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *dave
*Sent:* Thursday, June 6, 2019 7:59 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills
Since I was a Full time and a Part time soldier I was brought up with
good values and the meaning of hard work even though I had
my spell of crazy young man days but I think my first Tour humbled me
a bit to understand Focus.
Now that i am older it seems my Focus on some days fails me and I
often wonder if there are younger more focused people to
sustain hard work when needed.
I strongly believe in the hard worker and the veterans returning home
looking to start a new.
On 6/5/19 12:00 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Or like me, I can fly a desk, but I’m afraid of heights and that
would be a problem if you hired me as an installer.
*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 5, 2019 9:01 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Assessing life skills
Indeed. For an installer, it seems to me that construction-type
experience is probably more valuable than tech experience.
On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 8:21 AM Jay Weekley
<par...@cyberbroadband.net <mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote:
Was he in the dilemma of trying to get a tech job without
experience but
couldn't experience without a job? I'm as interested in
someone that
knows a wood bit from a mortar bit as I am in someone that can
perform a
simple router setup.
Jerry Head wrote:
> Disagree.
> We hired an installer last year who just turned 18.
> He was one of three people (of 9 who answered the ad) who
showed up.
> We had a simple test of programming a XX-Link router.
> He failed.
> My network engineer said "Lets try him anyway".
> We did hire him and he has worked out really well.
> So there's that I guess.
>
>
> On 5/31/2019 9:34 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> Anyone worth a crap is not out looking for a job these days.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On May 30, 2019, at 10:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List
Account)
>>> <li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A couple of thoughts:
>>>
>>> Many of these type of people will be working on something
interesting
>>> in their own time. Maybe some probing questions about
what they
>>> have done on their own. Depending on what you're looking
for, things
>>> like 'have you ever played with an arduino? Raspberry Pi?
etc?'
>>> might help.
>>>
>>> Have you thought about what would have attracted you to a
job listing?
>>> That might be a good starting point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 6:28 AM Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com <mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> When I was young I went exploring. I'd ask my mom if I
could go for a
>>>> bike ride. I never really specified where, and just kept
ranging
>>>> farther and farther from home. I'd end up in creeks,
culvert pipes,
>>>> climbing fences, walking through woods, construction
sites, quarries,
>>>> and basically anywhere else I didn't get kicked out of.
I got
>>>> there on
>>>> my bike so in terms of parental permission I put it all
under the
>>>> category of "going for a bike ride". I only got arrested
once, but I
>>>> probably deserved it a few more times.
>>>>
>>>> I also took things apart and used bits of wire and a
battery to play
>>>> with the components. At an early job they were impressed
that I
>>>> correctly used the word "potentiometer" in a sentence. I
also
>>>> plugged a
>>>> DC motor into a 120V AC outle --a valuable lesson there.
I also
>>>> melted a
>>>> NiCad battery on the carpet when I left it on the charger
too long.
>>>>
>>>> My hobbies included model trains and my RC car. I could
tell you the
>>>> difference between a parallel and series circuit when I
was 10. I
>>>> tagged
>>>> along with my brother when he went out shooting with his
Ruger
>>>> 10/22. I
>>>> slept out in the woods for the fun of it, and sometimes
didn't bring
>>>> anything but matches. Played with fireworks, made my own
fireworks
>>>> with
>>>> homemade black powder and/or match heads.
>>>>
>>>> My dad made me do drywall, set fence posts, change the
belt on a
>>>> lawnmower, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Every success and every failure contributed to a set of
skills that I
>>>> took for granted until I encountered people who didn't
have them.
>>>> Things
>>>> like spatial reasoning, basic electricity, use of basic
hand tools,
>>>> and
>>>> a general sense of time, distance, and direction.
>>>>
>>>> So the question for AFMUG is how do you find out whether
a job
>>>> applicant
>>>> is the curious explorer who wants to know how everything
works?
>>>> How do
>>>> I attract that applicant to begin with? I may want
specific skills
>>>> too
>>>> like a juggler who can juggle, but I really want people
who can figure
>>>> stuff out and won't be deterred by every little bump in
the road.
>>>>
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