OK... and?  Still a far cry from $40 or $50.

On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
That's $32,780...

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    That’s the current model.

    Here’s the bill of sale:

    image1.jpeg

    On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    wrote:

    That's $36k, 20% more...

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373


    On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the office.

        Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue.

        Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.

        <image1.png>

        On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a year? Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell
        remarkably bad.

        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373


        On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Last year lot sitter, sure....

            On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
            I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for
            $30k,  Especially with options.  There's no way they're
            doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else with a
            single quantity purchase.  I'll believe 30k when I see
            the bill of sale.

            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373


            On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I absolutely know what trucks cost and $50-$60k is
                way too much.   We
                purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two years ago
                for $30k... outfitted
                well.

                On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
                > To be consistent with my feelings on their semi
                truck, as long as the
                > performance, specifications, reliability, utility
                are as promised, I
                > care much less about how it appears.
                >
                > That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at
                least the $50k to have
                > AWD.
                >
                > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too
                much money for a truck."
                > Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I
                haven't seen what the
                > electric ATV costs.
                >
                > I also wonder what else changes between the tiers.
                Adding more motors
                > shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so
                what's happening with the
                > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
                shouldn't make it faster, so
                > what's up with the extra motors?
                >
                > I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a
                house with my daily
                > driver because I can always get something from the
                farm. I just want it
                > to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even
                the 14k towing would
                > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
                >
                > I wonder how trailers work with the EVs...  how
                easy is it to add (or
                > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc.
                >
                > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe
                Rivian had it
                > available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a
                bunch of tools for a
                > work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack.
                >
                > I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but
                I suppose that could
                > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need
                100 or 110 kw to meet
                > their advertised performance numbers.
                >
                > Weight would be nice to know as well.
                >
                > I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal,
                I'd probably prefer the
                > Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare
                out. What's the "mpg"
                > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
                >
                >
                >
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                > I was expecting to see some comments from this
                crowd. Was everyone
                > suitably underwhelmed?  Or running out to place
                your pre-orders?
                >
                > I think I saw one comment that it looked like a
                cross between an El
                > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec.  It certainly was not
                what I expected when I
                > heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric
                truck.  It sounds like
                > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast, but how
                big a market is there
                > for a  fast, expensive, ugly truck?  Maybe more
                than I realize.
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