A friend of mine has a Model S P85D and says it is great on snow/ice. I would suspect the truck will be better.
On Friday, November 22, 2019, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Supposedly, their computer can manage the slippage on a per-wheel basis to > get any traction that might be available instead of blind power. Supposedly. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 12:49:37 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > With the torque of electric motors, probably no snow tires in the world > would be enough, maybe convert to tracks. > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Robert > *Sent:* Friday, November 22, 2019 10:59 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > > > It's up on their website now. A winch, my life for a winch. But that > with 500 mile range for 60K and I could replace the power wagon with > it... Specially with and additional 6 inches of clearance and nothing to > block snow under the body, so it would slide on top easier. It might just > make a pretty good snow machine! > > On 11/22/19 7:49 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > The range(s) were listed as 200-500 depending on battery pack. The extra > motors add power, but don't make a significant impact on mileage (or as > much as you might think). You can see this in the various models S, X, and > Y; more motors doesn't really impact range all that much. I think this is > because just because you have more power, it still takes about the same > amount of power to go X miles per hour. > > > > The metric for efficiency is MPGe. The EPA has decreed that ~~33.5KWh is > approximately equal energy-wise to 1 gallon of gas. So, for example, the > latest firmware version of the Model 3 with a 60KWh battery goes ~~ 250 > miles. That nets out to ~~ 140 MPGe (250/(60/33.5)). > > > > We don't have enough information for the cybertruck yet to do that > calculation (or do we?). ICE trucks (half tons anyway) are doing good to > get 20 MPG these days. The diesel variety can get into the high 20s (26-28 > zone). > > > > I was surprised to see the towing capacity with a unibody. There would > have to be some serious reinforcement going on to attach a weight > distribution hitch with that kind of weight. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 11/22/2019 7:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > To be consistent with my feelings on their semi truck, as long as the > performance, specifications, reliability, utility are as promised, I care > much less about how it appears. > > > > That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at least the $50k to have > AWD. > > > > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too much money for a truck." > Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I haven't seen what the > electric ATV costs. > > > > I also wonder what else changes between the tiers. Adding more motors > shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so what's happening with the > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries shouldn't make it faster, so > what's up with the extra motors? > > > > I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a house with my daily > driver because I can always get something from the farm. I just want it to > be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even the 14k towing would be > enough for our Bobcat and trailer. > > > > I wonder how trailers work with the EVs... how easy is it to add (or get > the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc. > > > > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe Rivian had it available > and I just forgot. Nice place to store a bunch of tools for a work truck, > though no place to add a ladder rack. > > > > I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but I suppose that could > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need 100 or 110 kw to meet > their advertised performance numbers. > > > > Weight would be nice to know as well. > > > > I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal, I'd probably prefer the > Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare out. What's the "mpg" > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh? > > > > > > > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> <af...@kwisp.com> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> > <af@af.afmug.com> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck > > I was expecting to see some comments from this crowd. Was everyone > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out to place your pre-orders? > > > > I think I saw one comment that it looked like a cross between an El Camino > and a Pontiac Aztec. It certainly was not what I expected when I heard > Tesla was going to bring out an electric truck. It sounds like the 3 motor > version will indeed be fast, but how big a market is there for a fast, > expensive, ugly truck? Maybe more than I realize. > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >
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