It does indeed. Collision system, backup camera, adaptive cruise control, full bed liner.

Why is this so hard to understand?

On 11/22/19 3:51 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?



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*From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]>
*To: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]>
*Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

OK... and?  Still a far cry from $40 or $50.

On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
 > That's $32,780...
 >
 > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
 > <[email protected]
 > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >
 >     That’s the current model.
 >
 >     Here’s the bill of sale:
 >
 >     image1.jpeg
 >
 >     On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
 >     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
 >     wrote:
 >
 >>     That's $36k, 20% more...
 >>
 >>     Josh Luthman
 >>     Office: 937-552-2340
 >>     Direct: 937-552-2343
 >>     1100 Wayne St
 >>     Suite 1337
 >>     Troy, OH 45373
 >>
 >>
 >>     On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
 >>     <[email protected]
 >>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >>
 >>         I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the office.
 >>
 >>         Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue.
 >>
 >>         Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
 >>
 >>         <image1.png>
 >>
 >>         On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
 >>         <[email protected]
 >>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >>
 >>>         You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a year?
 >>>         Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell
 >>>         remarkably bad.
 >>>
 >>>         Josh Luthman
 >>>         Office: 937-552-2340
 >>>         Direct: 937-552-2343
 >>>         1100 Wayne St
 >>>         Suite 1337
 >>>         Troy, OH 45373
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>         On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
 >>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >>>
 >>>             Last year lot sitter, sure....
 >>>
 >>>             On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
 >>>>             I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for
 >>>>             $30k,  Especially with options.  There's no way they're
 >>>>             doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else with a
 >>>>             single quantity purchase.  I'll believe 30k when I see
 >>>>             the bill of sale.
 >>>>
 >>>>             Josh Luthman
 >>>>             Office: 937-552-2340
 >>>>             Direct: 937-552-2343
 >>>>             1100 Wayne St
 >>>>             Suite 1337
 >>>>             Troy, OH 45373
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>>             On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes
 >>>>             <[email protected]
 >>>>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>>                 I absolutely know what trucks cost and $50-$60k is
 >>>>                 way too much.   We
 >>>>                 purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two years ago
 >>>>                 for $30k... outfitted
 >>>>                 well.
 >>>>
 >>>>                 On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
 >>>>                 > To be consistent with my feelings on their semi
 >>>>                 truck, as long as the
 >>>>                 > performance, specifications, reliability, utility
 >>>>                 are as promised, I
 >>>>                 > care much less about how it appears.
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at
 >>>>                 least the $50k to have
 >>>>                 > AWD.
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too
 >>>>                 much money for a truck."
 >>>>                 > Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I
 >>>>                 haven't seen what the
 >>>>                 > electric ATV costs.
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I also wonder what else changes between the tiers.
 >>>>                 Adding more motors
 >>>>                 > shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so
 >>>>                 what's happening with the
 >>>>                 > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
 >>>>                 shouldn't make it faster, so
 >>>>                 > what's up with the extra motors?
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a
 >>>>                 house with my daily
 >>>>                 > driver because I can always get something from the
 >>>>                 farm. I just want it
 >>>>                 > to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even
 >>>>                 the 14k towing would
 >>>>                 > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I wonder how trailers work with the EVs...  how
 >>>>                 easy is it to add (or
 >>>>                 > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc.
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe
 >>>>                 Rivian had it
 >>>>                 > available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a
 >>>>                 bunch of tools for a
 >>>>                 > work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack.
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but
 >>>>                 I suppose that could
 >>>>                 > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need
 >>>>                 100 or 110 kw to meet
 >>>>                 > their advertised performance numbers.
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > Weight would be nice to know as well.
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal,
 >>>>                 I'd probably prefer the
 >>>>                 > Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare
 >>>>                 out. What's the "mpg"
 >>>>                 > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > -----
 >>>>                 > Mike Hammett
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 >>>>                 <http://www.ics-il.com/>
 >>>>                 >
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 >>>>                 > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]
 >>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>>
 >>>>                 > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
 >>>>                 <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
 >>>>                 > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
 >>>>                 > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I was expecting to see some comments from this
 >>>>                 crowd. Was everyone
 >>>>                 > suitably underwhelmed?  Or running out to place
 >>>>                 your pre-orders?
 >>>>                 >
 >>>>                 > I think I saw one comment that it looked like a
 >>>>                 cross between an El
 >>>>                 > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec.  It certainly was not
 >>>>                 what I expected when I
 >>>>                 > heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric
 >>>>                 truck.  It sounds like
 >>>>                 > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast, but how
 >>>>                 big a market is there
 >>>>                 > for a  fast, expensive, ugly truck?  Maybe more
 >>>>                 than I realize.
 >>>>                 >
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