As I said it's not 30, you're 10% higher than that.  That's retail price
for a base model Tundra.  I'm sure it's a great truck but it's apples and
oranges.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?
>
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> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> *To: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users
> Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
>
> OK... and?  Still a far cry from $40 or $50.
>
> On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
> > That's $32,780...
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
> > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> >
> >     That’s the current model.
> >
> >     Here’s the bill of sale:
> >
> >     image1.jpeg
> >
> >     On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
> >     <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> >     wrote:
> >
> >>     That's $36k, 20% more...
> >>
> >>     Josh Luthman
> >>     Office: 937-552-2340
> >>     Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>     1100 Wayne St
> >>     Suite 1337
> >>     Troy, OH 45373
> >>
> >>
> >>     On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
> >>     <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> >>     <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> >>
> >>         I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the office.
> >>
> >>         Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue.
> >>
> >>         Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
> >>
> >>         <image1.png>
> >>
> >>         On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
> >>         <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> >>         <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>>         You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a year?
> >>>         Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell
> >>>         remarkably bad.
> >>>
> >>>         Josh Luthman
> >>>         Office: 937-552-2340
> >>>         Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>>         1100 Wayne St
> >>>         Suite 1337
> >>>         Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>         On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
> >>>         <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>             Last year lot sitter, sure....
> >>>
> >>>             On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>>             I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for
> >>>>             $30k,  Especially with options.  There's no way they're
> >>>>             doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else with a
> >>>>             single quantity purchase.  I'll believe 30k when I see
> >>>>             the bill of sale.
> >>>>
> >>>>             Josh Luthman
> >>>>             Office: 937-552-2340
> >>>>             Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>>>             1100 Wayne St
> >>>>             Suite 1337
> >>>>             Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>             On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes
> >>>>             <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net
> >>>>             <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>                 I absolutely know what trucks cost and $50-$60k is
> >>>>                 way too much.   We
> >>>>                 purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two years ago
> >>>>                 for $30k... outfitted
> >>>>                 well.
> >>>>
> >>>>                 On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> >>>>                 > To be consistent with my feelings on their semi
> >>>>                 truck, as long as the
> >>>>                 > performance, specifications, reliability, utility
> >>>>                 are as promised, I
> >>>>                 > care much less about how it appears.
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > That $40k price point is nice, though I'd want at
> >>>>                 least the $50k to have
> >>>>                 > AWD.
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too
> >>>>                 much money for a truck."
> >>>>                 > Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I
> >>>>                 haven't seen what the
> >>>>                 > electric ATV costs.
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I also wonder what else changes between the tiers.
> >>>>                 Adding more motors
> >>>>                 > shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so
> >>>>                 what's happening with the
> >>>>                 > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
> >>>>                 shouldn't make it faster, so
> >>>>                 > what's up with the extra motors?
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a
> >>>>                 house with my daily
> >>>>                 > driver because I can always get something from the
> >>>>                 farm. I just want it
> >>>>                 > to be big enough to handle most things. Hell, even
> >>>>                 the 14k towing would
> >>>>                 > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I wonder how trailers work with the EVs...  how
> >>>>                 easy is it to add (or
> >>>>                 > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc.
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover. Maybe
> >>>>                 Rivian had it
> >>>>                 > available and I just forgot. Nice place to store a
> >>>>                 bunch of tools for a
> >>>>                 > work truck, though no place to add a ladder rack.
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I was annoyed they didn't have battery specs, but
> >>>>                 I suppose that could
> >>>>                 > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if they need
> >>>>                 100 or 110 kw to meet
> >>>>                 > their advertised performance numbers.
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > Weight would be nice to know as well.
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal,
> >>>>                 I'd probably prefer the
> >>>>                 > Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare
> >>>>                 out. What's the "mpg"
> >>>>                 > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 >
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> >>>>                 > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com
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> >>>>                 > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
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> >>>>                 > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
> >>>>                 > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I was expecting to see some comments from this
> >>>>                 crowd. Was everyone
> >>>>                 > suitably underwhelmed?  Or running out to place
> >>>>                 your pre-orders?
> >>>>                 >
> >>>>                 > I think I saw one comment that it looked like a
> >>>>                 cross between an El
> >>>>                 > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec.  It certainly was not
> >>>>                 what I expected when I
> >>>>                 > heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric
> >>>>                 truck.  It sounds like
> >>>>                 > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast, but how
> >>>>                 big a market is there
> >>>>                 > for a  fast, expensive, ugly truck?  Maybe more
> >>>>                 than I realize.
> >>>>                 >
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