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On 11/22/19 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Yes Mike, it's a Toyota.  Not Pontiac.

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On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio?



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    *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]
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    *To: *"Mathew Howard" <[email protected]
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    *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck

    OK... and?  Still a far cry from $40 or $50.

    On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
     > That's $32,780...
     >
     > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes
     > <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
     > <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >
     >     That’s the current model.
     >
     >     Here’s the bill of sale:
     >
     >     image1.jpeg
     >
     >     On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman
     >     <[email protected]
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     >     wrote:
     >
     >>     That's $36k, 20% more...
     >>
     >>     Josh Luthman
     >>     Office: 937-552-2340
     >>     Direct: 937-552-2343
     >>     1100 Wayne St
     >>     Suite 1337
     >>     Troy, OH 45373
     >>
     >>
     >>     On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes
     >>     <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
     >>     <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >>
     >>         I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the office.
     >>
     >>         Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue.
     >>
     >>         Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k.
     >>
     >>         <image1.png>
     >>
     >>         On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman
     >>         <[email protected]
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     >>         <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >>
     >>>         You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a year?
     >>>         Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell
     >>>         remarkably bad.
     >>>
     >>>         Josh Luthman
     >>>         Office: 937-552-2340
     >>>         Direct: 937-552-2343
     >>>         1100 Wayne St
     >>>         Suite 1337
     >>>         Troy, OH 45373
     >>>
     >>>
     >>>         On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert
     >>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >>>
     >>>             Last year lot sitter, sure....
     >>>
     >>>             On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
     >>>>             I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, Tundra for
     >>>>             $30k,  Especially with options.  There's no way
    they're
     >>>>             doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else with a
     >>>>             single quantity purchase.  I'll believe 30k when I see
     >>>>             the bill of sale.
     >>>>
     >>>>             Josh Luthman
     >>>>             Office: 937-552-2340
     >>>>             Direct: 937-552-2343
     >>>>             1100 Wayne St
     >>>>             Suite 1337
     >>>>             Troy, OH 45373
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>>             On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes
     >>>>             <[email protected]
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     >>>>             <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >>>>
     >>>>                 I absolutely know what trucks cost and $50-$60k is
     >>>>                 way too much.   We
     >>>>                 purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two years ago
     >>>>                 for $30k... outfitted
     >>>>                 well.
     >>>>
     >>>>                 On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
     >>>>                 > To be consistent with my feelings on their semi
     >>>>                 truck, as long as the
     >>>>                 > performance, specifications, reliability,
    utility
     >>>>                 are as promised, I
     >>>>                 > care much less about how it appears.
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > That $40k price point is nice, though I'd
    want at
     >>>>                 least the $50k to have
     >>>>                 > AWD.
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, that too
     >>>>                 much money for a truck."
     >>>>                 > Clearly they have no idea what trucks cost. I
     >>>>                 haven't seen what the
     >>>>                 > electric ATV costs.
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I also wonder what else changes between the
    tiers.
     >>>>                 Adding more motors
     >>>>                 > shouldn't add to the range of the vehicle, so
     >>>>                 what's happening with the
     >>>>                 > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries
     >>>>                 shouldn't make it faster, so
     >>>>                 > what's up with the extra motors?
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I'm more willing to admit I don't need to pull a
     >>>>                 house with my daily
     >>>>                 > driver because I can always get something
    from the
     >>>>                 farm. I just want it
     >>>>                 > to be big enough to handle most things.
    Hell, even
     >>>>                 the 14k towing would
     >>>>                 > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer.
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I wonder how trailers work with the EVs...  how
     >>>>                 easy is it to add (or
     >>>>                 > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth wheel, etc.
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau cover.
    Maybe
     >>>>                 Rivian had it
     >>>>                 > available and I just forgot. Nice place to
    store a
     >>>>                 bunch of tools for a
     >>>>                 > work truck, though no place to add a ladder
    rack.
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I was annoyed they didn't have battery
    specs, but
     >>>>                 I suppose that could
     >>>>                 > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if
    they need
     >>>>                 100 or 110 kw to meet
     >>>>                 > their advertised performance numbers.
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > Weight would be nice to know as well.
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I'm not surprised on the design. All else equal,
     >>>>                 I'd probably prefer the
     >>>>                 > Rivian, but let's see how things actually bare
     >>>>                 out. What's the "mpg"
     >>>>                 > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh?
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 >
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     >>>>                 > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM
     >>>>                 > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I was expecting to see some comments from this
     >>>>                 crowd. Was everyone
     >>>>                 > suitably underwhelmed?  Or running out to place
     >>>>                 your pre-orders?
     >>>>                 >
     >>>>                 > I think I saw one comment that it looked like a
     >>>>                 cross between an El
     >>>>                 > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec.  It certainly
    was not
     >>>>                 what I expected when I
     >>>>                 > heard Tesla was going to bring out an electric
     >>>>                 truck.  It sounds like
     >>>>                 > the 3 motor version will indeed be fast, but how
     >>>>                 big a market is there
     >>>>                 > for a  fast, expensive, ugly truck?  Maybe more
     >>>>                 than I realize.
     >>>>                 >
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