2-New Orleans.  Missed the one in Vegas 

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> On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> I think I went to 3 - 9, other than 7.
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
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> From: "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com>
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 3:06:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk
> 
> https://web.archive.org/web/20060701061713/http://www.wispcon.info/
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>> Remember WISPCON?  I think I attended WISPCON II in something like 2002.  
>> There was some startup called Motorola with a product called Canopy.  Also a 
>> competitor called Trango.  I probably still have a binder from the show in a 
>> bookcase somewhere.  Not sure if Wireless Beehive existed yet.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Bill Prince
>> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:38 PM
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> That's how I came to create my email address (part15 Skyline Broadband 
>> Service). In my mind this place is still part 15, even though we manage to 
>> cover quite a range of topics.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> On 12/4/2020 11:31 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>> 
>> One day, mid day Michael was upset because someone cross posted or wrongly 
>> posted something about Motorola in a Trango list or some such thing.  He was 
>> pretty much a list nazi about that because you had to subscribe to each list 
>> and he didn’t want Motorola folks from answering Trango questions if they 
>> were not a subscriber to both lists or something like that. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In any event he was grouchy and trying to police this kind of stuff.  And 
>> then he sent an email with I QUIT as the subject line.
>> 
>> Then, like immediately, the list serve went down and stayed down.  I was 
>> getting emails all afternoon about it and so I had my guys start up a list 
>> serv, put all the Motorola people on it and away we go. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> In a day or two, Michael became aware his site was down and fixed it but by 
>> then ... the barn door had been left open.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I am sure he never forgave me.  But we did it out of a want to keep in 
>> contact rather than malice.  We had no idea the meaning of I QUIT.  As it 
>> turns out he was just frustrated and the outage was just coincidental.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Pretty sure part 15 went out of business because of this. 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Adam Moffett
>> 
>> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 6:57 AM
>> 
>> To: af@af.afmug.com
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> What was the deal with Bullit anyway?  Some sort of control issues?
>> 
>> On 12/2/2020 4:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
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>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Paul McCall
>> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:52 PM
>> 
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Its all good Ken 😊
>> 
>> Didn’t mean to sound defensive LOL.
>> 
>> But if I get any more crap, I QUIT  hahahah
>> 
>> (only us “long-times” will get that reference)
>> 
>> From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:29 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>> I didn’t mean that to be an insult, more like kudos, you honey badger you.
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Paul McCall
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 3:16 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>> Not in total agreement with that assessment Ken.  
>> 
>> 20 years of having a fixed wireless division without really working 
>> aggressively for customer acquisition, over 1000 customers, while doing a 
>> bunch of other things.  Network running like a well-oiled machine, less than 
>> 10 tech phone calls per 24 hours, sometimes just 2 or 3.  We are well aware 
>> of future proofing and are doing that wherever possible.  I think we have a 
>> few years at least even at 2.4, running 45 degree sectors, and smaller fill 
>> towers.  We overlay what we can in 5 Ghz to give peak speeds.  Licensed BH 
>> links wherever possible.   If I had a local company that could provide 
>> 50Mbit plans for less than Mr. musk, I would take it all day long.  Not 
>> everyone would of course.  ATT has had fixed wireless in 80% of our coverage 
>> area, and we have lost 4 customers in 2 years to it.
>> 
>> But, I have other businesses, and a recording musician if that industry ever 
>> comes back.
>> 
>> They key is to be a honey badger at whatever you are doing!
>> 
>> I’m good 😊
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:07 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>> You are a brave man trying to make a business out of NLOS fixed wireless.  
>> On the one hand, it’s magic not science.  On the other hand, Elon Musk and 
>> T-Mobile are wanting to eat your lunch, not to mention government funded 
>> fiber.
>> 
>> I think it’s like getting people to pay to see you juggle running chainsaws, 
>> while they could instead watch Netflix or play Call Of Duty.  Very 
>> difficult, yet customers would rather be doing something else.
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:49 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>> Theodolite will. 
>> 
>> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:37 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>> LOL, definitely not in LOS territory.  90% of our rural stuff won’t see the 
>> towers.
>> 
>> We use tower coverage as well, but it doesn’t show the angle (degrees) to 
>> the tower.
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:53 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>> When an account (in Powercode) is made through Towercoverage API, it'll add 
>> the estimated signals to the tower starting with the closest ones.  That 
>> ticket could always be pulled up.
>> 
>> As far as alignment, I would think you're in LOS territory with 5 GHz so 
>> once you know where the tower is, you can aim for it by eyeball instead of 
>> app.
>> 
>> Josh Luthman
>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:44 PM Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>> 
>> We have that… looking for more of a compass time app that will point him to 
>> a tower, based on stored LAT / LONG
>> 
>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:15 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>> Google Earth
>> 
>> From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 10:07 AM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs
>> 
>> Anyone have a favorite app??  (android or iPhone) for putting in the 
>> LAT/LONG of all the towers, so that the newbies have a general direction to 
>> a tower from their location.
>> 
>> Looking to import (or type them) in all the towers..
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Paul McCall, President
>> 
>> Florida Broadband / PDMNet
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>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
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>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
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