I thought 2 was Chicago (Oakbrook).

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 7:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk

 

2-New Orleans.  Missed the one in Vegas 

Jeff Broadwick

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On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net> > wrote:



I think I went to 3 - 9, other than 7.



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From: "Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com <mailto:cstann...@gmail.com> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 3:06:05 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk

https://web.archive.org/web/20060701061713/http://www.wispcon.info/ 
<https://web.archive.org/web/20060701061713/http:/www.wispcon.info/> 

 

On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Remember WISPCON?  I think I attended WISPCON II in something like 2002.  There 
was some startup called Motorola with a product called Canopy.  Also a 
competitor called Trango.  I probably still have a binder from the show in a 
bookcase somewhere.  Not sure if Wireless Beehive existed yet.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:38 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk

 

That's how I came to create my email address (part15 Skyline Broadband 
Service). In my mind this place is still part 15, even though we manage to 
cover quite a range of topics.

 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 12/4/2020 11:31 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

One day, mid day Michael was upset because someone cross posted or wrongly 
posted something about Motorola in a Trango list or some such thing.  He was 
pretty much a list nazi about that because you had to subscribe to each list 
and he didn’t want Motorola folks from answering Trango questions if they were 
not a subscriber to both lists or something like that.  

 

In any event he was grouchy and trying to police this kind of stuff.  And then 
he sent an email with I QUIT as the subject line.

Then, like immediately, the list serve went down and stayed down.  I was 
getting emails all afternoon about it and so I had my guys start up a list 
serv, put all the Motorola people on it and away we go.  

 

In a day or two, Michael became aware his site was down and fixed it but by 
then ... the barn door had been left open.

 

I am sure he never forgave me.  But we did it out of a want to keep in contact 
rather than malice.  We had no idea the meaning of I QUIT.  As it turns out he 
was just frustrated and the outage was just coincidental.

 

Pretty sure part 15 went out of business because of this.  

 

From: Adam Moffett 

Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 6:57 AM

To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>  

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I QUIT! jk

 

What was the deal with Bullit anyway?  Some sort of control issues?

On 12/2/2020 4:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

 

 

From: Paul McCall 

Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:52 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

 

Its all good Ken 😊

Didn’t mean to sound defensive LOL.

But if I get any more crap, I QUIT  hahahah

(only us “long-times” will get that reference)

From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:29 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

I didn’t mean that to be an insult, more like kudos, you honey badger you.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 3:16 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Not in total agreement with that assessment Ken.   

20 years of having a fixed wireless division without really working 
aggressively for customer acquisition, over 1000 customers, while doing a bunch 
of other things.  Network running like a well-oiled machine, less than 10 tech 
phone calls per 24 hours, sometimes just 2 or 3.  We are well aware of future 
proofing and are doing that wherever possible.  I think we have a few years at 
least even at 2.4, running 45 degree sectors, and smaller fill towers.  We 
overlay what we can in 5 Ghz to give peak speeds.  Licensed BH links wherever 
possible.   If I had a local company that could provide 50Mbit plans for less 
than Mr. musk, I would take it all day long.  Not everyone would of course.  
ATT has had fixed wireless in 80% of our coverage area, and we have lost 4 
customers in 2 years to it.

But, I have other businesses, and a recording musician if that industry ever 
comes back.

They key is to be a honey badger at whatever you are doing!

I’m good 😊

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 4:07 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

You are a brave man trying to make a business out of NLOS fixed wireless.  On 
the one hand, it’s magic not science.  On the other hand, Elon Musk and 
T-Mobile are wanting to eat your lunch, not to mention government funded fiber.

I think it’s like getting people to pay to see you juggle running chainsaws, 
while they could instead watch Netflix or play Call Of Duty.  Very difficult, 
yet customers would rather be doing something else.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 2:49 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Theodolite will.  

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 1:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

LOL, definitely not in LOS territory.  90% of our rural stuff won’t see the 
towers.

We use tower coverage as well, but it doesn’t show the angle (degrees) to the 
tower.

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:53 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

When an account (in Powercode) is made through Towercoverage API, it'll add the 
estimated signals to the tower starting with the closest ones.  That ticket 
could always be pulled up.

As far as alignment, I would think you're in LOS territory with 5 GHz so once 
you know where the tower is, you can aim for it by eyeball instead of app.


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:44 PM Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net 
<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net> > wrote:

We have that… looking for more of a compass time app that will point him to a 
tower, based on stored LAT / LONG

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:15 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Cc: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com <mailto:ch...@go-mtc.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Google Earth

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall
Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2020 10:07 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [AFMUG] Favorite AP for tower locating for techs

Anyone have a favorite app??  (android or iPhone) for putting in the LAT/LONG 
of all the towers, so that the newbies have a general direction to a tower from 
their location.

Looking to import (or type them) in all the towers..

Thanks!

Paul McCall, President 

Florida Broadband / PDMNet

658 Old Dixie Highway

Vero Beach, FL 32962

772-564-6800

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