Alternate Chuck also has a solid gold Canopy pedigree. Can’t take that away.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 7, 2021, at 9:59 PM, Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Good chucks rules said nothing about fights to the death. But also bad chuck > isnt really u@#t, hes air fiber. That's kind of like an imitation veggie > burger made of beef. > >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 9:21 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >> Is that allowed? >> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 9:03 PM Chuck Macenski <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I give up (I am too old slow to be involved in a dual) >>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 8:44 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Sorry good chuck, but bad chuck is spitting fighting words. Its come to a >>>> duel >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021, 7:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> LENT! >>>>> >>>>> From: Chuck Macenski >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 6:01 PM >>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>>>> >>>>> UBNT UBNT UBNT UBNT >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 5:12 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> I hated sociology when I was in college, but had to take it. I think >>>>>> sociology now would be fascinating. Think about how far we have >>>>>> degraded as a society. Of all people, the people on this list should >>>>>> not be surprised of where we are at. >>>>>> >>>>>> There has always been conspiracy theories. Bigfoot, Area 51, JFK, etc. >>>>>> But in the pre-internet days, you really had to want to be a conspiracy >>>>>> person to get sucked in. You had to subscribe to magazines, you had to >>>>>> find books at the store or library. You really had to be dedicated to >>>>>> that conspiracy. Most considered them urban legends, only a few took >>>>>> the deep dive. It also helped that 99% of the news was centralized. >>>>>> You watched a certain channel because you liked the person doing the >>>>>> reporting , not the news itself. If there was spin, it was mostly all >>>>>> spun in the same direction. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then came the Internet. Now we have BBS and chat rooms where these >>>>>> conspiracy people can virtually meet. Still not an issue because a >>>>>> majority of the population is still getting their news from a >>>>>> centralized place. CNN at this point was still main stream and in >>>>>> inline with the networks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then AOL comes along and everyone starts getting on the Internet. >>>>>> Things start getting a little worst. Remember Bonsai Kitten. Hey, its >>>>>> on the Internet so it is true. Forums start popping up, some people >>>>>> start building their own websites, e-mail is becoming more popular. >>>>>> It's dial up, still takes a lot of work to get involved with the >>>>>> conspiracy guys. But now you have a bit easier access to the rabbit >>>>>> hole. Most news is still consumed via TV and Newspapers. Most events >>>>>> are still reported accurately. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then dedicated always on Internet shows up along with social media. >>>>>> This begins the downward spiral. No more dial up. You can create any >>>>>> type of bat shit crazy FB group/page. You can post any type of video on >>>>>> youtube. Now that rabbit hole is getting easier to navigate. You can >>>>>> start blogging or vlogging. You can setup websites via godaddy in a few >>>>>> clicks. More people are starting to get their news via the Internet. >>>>>> The news organizations start seeing this and begin their presence >>>>>> online. News is starting to get a bit more blurry as some of these >>>>>> virtual news organizations start competing with the old timers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Then we get smart phones, snapchat, instagram, etc. Now we have access >>>>>> to that rabbit hole wherever we are. There is almost zero effort needed >>>>>> to make a post to social media. Anyone with a selfie stick and a smart >>>>>> phone is now a reporter. Virtual "news" channels streamed from someones >>>>>> basement are now on ROKU or FireStick. There is no more centralize >>>>>> news. Everything is an opinion story. Old school news outlets have to >>>>>> stop being independent and start leaning one way or another to survive >>>>>> in the new age. All that matters now is followers, eyeballs and ad >>>>>> revenue. Keep your eyeballs worked up as much as possible, so they come >>>>>> back or go deeper into the rabbit hole. >>>>>> >>>>>> As I said of all people, we on this list should not be surprised where >>>>>> we are as a country. We watched this develop over the last 20+ years. >>>>>> Unfortunately, I really don't see how it gets better. There was always >>>>>> some fringe groups out there, but now there is no such thing as fringe. >>>>>> >>>>>> Everyone has now been divided into tribes. Red tribe, Blue tribe, LGQBT >>>>>> tribe, BLM tribe, Proud Boys tribe, Christian tribe, etc. With social >>>>>> media we are now free to associated with only the people that agree with >>>>>> us. We surround ourselves with yes men. We rarely hear "The Rest of >>>>>> the Story". Our believes are confirmed and reinforced each and every >>>>>> day until we are willing to die for them. Chris Rock in the movie Dogma >>>>>> had a great quote "I just think it's better to have an idea. You can >>>>>> change an idea; changing a belief is trickier. People die for it, people >>>>>> kill for it." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> Mark mailto:[email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Myakka Technologies, Inc. >>>>>> www.Myakka.com >>>>>> >>>>>> ------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Thursday, January 7, 2021, 2:37:53 PM, you wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems like it should be pretty obvious to everyone at this point that >>>>>> no matter what is said on either side of these political issues that >>>>>> nothing is going to change the opinions and beliefs of people on the >>>>>> other side. No matter how much “proof” either side has to show that >>>>>> they are right, no one is going to change their opinion. I suppose >>>>>> there are always some people who straddle the fence (just watch out if >>>>>> you slip and it’s a picket or razor blade fence you’re straddling!) and >>>>>> might be swayed by something they see, but the reality is that nothing >>>>>> is gained by anyone by these conversations on a list like this. In >>>>>> fact, much is lost…….. hopefully those that unsubscribed will come >>>>>> back. Personally, as long as political discussions don’t get so vicious >>>>>> as they’ve been at times, I find many of them entertaining. Overall >>>>>> though they seem to have caused more damage to this group than any >>>>>> benefit they’ve ever given. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 1:24 PM >>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>>>>> Cc: Chuck McCown <[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>>>>> >>>>>> I could argue number of people involved, number of days in protest, >>>>>> number or people hurt, number of cops hurt, $ of damage done etc etc and >>>>>> compare the two by the numbers. >>>>>> >>>>>> Pretty sure I am right. Just crunch the numbers. There is no “side” to >>>>>> simple counting of participants times time. >>>>>> >>>>>> But to you my comment “one sided inflammatory BS” . >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry I offered ANY opinion or commentary. >>>>>> My comment came very late in the day, the political argument started far >>>>>> earlier. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Carl Peterson >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 7, 2021 12:14 PM >>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck, >>>>>> >>>>>> I know it is your list and your rules, but you can't say crap like "The >>>>>> DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland and >>>>>> Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take." and not >>>>>> expect it to start a political argument. I think you are abundantly and >>>>>> dangerously wrong about that but I'm (mostly) holding my tongue. We >>>>>> can't have a list where one sided inflammatory BS like that is allowed >>>>>> but countering it is not. We either allow political discussions, which >>>>>> I'm fine with, or we make a no politics rule. The latter seems to be >>>>>> the best option as there are too many brilliant minds who we will lose >>>>>> if we keep it up. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:37 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry. I don’t want to go back to the days of lent, but we have to >>>>>> remain civil to do so. >>>>>> >>>>>> The DC crap today does not hold a candle in magnitude to the Portland >>>>>> and Seattle crap largely done by the other side. Give and take. >>>>>> >>>>>> Folks wanna blow off steam. It will be history tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> No need to pollute our list here with that energy, from either side. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Steve Jones >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:32 PM >>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: FB >>>>>> >>>>>> youre no fun dad >>>>>> >>>>>> Lent? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:31 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Kill thread. We had been well behaved but nobody wants to see a bunch >>>>>> of F words in a subject line. There have been complaints. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Mathew Howard >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 3:23 PM >>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit >>>>>> >>>>>> That's the real problem. I've come to the conclusion that almost no >>>>>> so-called news having anything to do with politics is honest or >>>>>> reliable, no matter which side it comes from. Almost all of it is >>>>>> slanted (if not outright dishonest) to either fit their own view or >>>>>> manipulate their consumers into supporting a particular agenda. >>>>>> Unfortunately, there seems to be very little that can be done to fix it. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:17 PM Craig House <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> " a nugget of truth with a layer of bullshit on top" Is exactly how I >>>>>> take every bit of news from every outlet on every station. It is even >>>>>> more the case when the source is a politician or anyone with a political >>>>>> agenda. This includes most of the people on this list. Very few on >>>>>> either side can really provide an objective argument on politics today. >>>>>> I'd include myself in that group therefore I tend to just delete or not >>>>>> reply to these group messages because it only furthers the divide. I >>>>>> honestly dont see any long term solution to the divide we have today. >>>>>> Mainstream media isn't going to help. Congress isn't going to help and >>>>>> Trump isn't going to help. Neither is anyone's opinion on this list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 4:09:22 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Fucking Bullshit >>>>>> >>>>>> Look at the evidence closely and in each case you'll find a nugget of >>>>>> truth with a layer of bullshit on top. That so many people are so >>>>>> thoroughly fooled by it is the most distressing part. Look closer. >>>>>> Stop being a fool. >>>>>> The "coup" is when the loser thinks he can win by pretending hard enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 1/6/2021 5:05 PM, justsumname wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> an election that is not conducted according to law is not an election. >>>>>> it's a coup. >>>>>> Worse... if the 'election' is not transparent, verifiable, and treats >>>>>> every voter the same, it's not an "election". >>>>>> Worse ... if poll watchers are bullied and physically threatened... that >>>>>> is intolerable. >>>>>> >>>>>> hereistheevidence.com --- in case you dare open your mind to truth >>>>>> >>>>>> Patton was correct, and so was that McCarthy guy, who was probably a >>>>>> commie plant because he did a great job discrediting 'his' message. >>>>>> >>>>>> All that is left is communism or war. That was the plan all along and >>>>>> only 'crazy' people -- and people who escaped communist societies to >>>>>> come warn us -- saw it or believed in it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll sign off with this, because this is probably The End: >>>>>> >>>>>> “In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the >>>>>> purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to >>>>>> inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to >>>>>> reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they >>>>>> are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced >>>>>> to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of >>>>>> probity. To assent to obvious lies is...in some small way to become evil >>>>>> oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even >>>>>> destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if >>>>>> you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is >>>>>> intended to.” ~ Theodore Dalrymple >>>>>> >>>>>> You arrogant asses, you've killed us! >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> go drink some tecate, youre losing your mind >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 3:26 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Did you just hear his tweeter video bullshit? Fuck Trump... Kruchev >>>>>> predicted it... Trump enabled it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Go ahead and get off this list >>>>>> Fuck Trump and his Trumpicans... >>>>>> This is an Insurrection..Rudy called for trial by combat, Trump said it >>>>>> was going to be wild ... >>>>>> So fuck them to hell. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021, 2:11 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> IKR, slides biden is demanding potus go on national TV to quell it, >>>>>> unlike during the biden obama administration when he didnt demand the >>>>>> same. god this is funny. sad they havent shot more of these mopes today >>>>>> and historically >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2021 at 2:50 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> WTF...third world country tactics... >>>>>> Insurrection... >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Carl Peterson >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> Total Control Panel >>>>>> Login >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> You received this message because the domain afmug.com is on your allow >>>>>> list. >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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