Re: [AFMUG] RJ45 crimpers, review

Fri, 19 Mar 2021 11:26:54 -0700 

Just trying to be fair>>
I decided to just go make ends!  un-boxed CMX brand CAT5e- no issues except for brown wire didn't cut clean, True-Cable CAT5e -Ditto, Honeywell-Ditto, PremeirTek CAT5e -Ditto, Ubiquiti-w/foil CAT5e - cutter nics the wire, brown wire not a clean cut, Ubiquiti with braid, braid gets cut and wires scored, brown wire not cut clean-this is a CAT6, not a fair test.  Used the plugs P/N 100003B for the unshielded cable and Ubiquiti metalized connectors for shielded cable.  (I'm tossing the box of connectors with the metal cable bracket as no crimp-tool for bracket) 


If I use my fingers to untwist the pairs so the wires don't resemble 
cork-screws, the wire will insert into the fitting ok, the other method 
using the cut jacket piece as an "un-twister" doesn't get a good 
review.  Make-up time for pull-through vs non-pull-through is about the 
same amount of time.



I like the way this EZ-RJ-Pro-HD crimps, it does a better job at 
grabbing the jacket and the cable-ends look professional.  Think I'll 
keep using it.  I can live with the dangling brown wire(pin8)


gams

On 3/17/21 9:51 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:



Getting the wires into the plugs is not easy, it was a complete PITA.  
They (wires) would keep catching on something inside the plug.  Other 
issue is getting them to go through and stay in the correct order.  
The only feature I liked about it was the jacket pushes into the 
connector further allowing its capture once crimped to be better.  My 
normal time to make a connector with ground wire is under 5 minutes 
and I'm old with arthritis.  This pull-thru gizmo took many tries and 
over half an hour.  I put the Ubiquiti connector on the other end, 
simply because it's not such a PITA!


gams

On 3/17/21 9:22 AM, TJ Trout wrote:

pass thru connectors exist with many grounding termination options..


 you can twist the wires if you're having trouble getting the wires 
to go past the blade before crimping.


really it's just a matter of getting used to a new process.

It's a superior termination and it's faster, everyone should use them.


On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM Jan-GAMs <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    PITA!  Crimpers EZ-RJPRO and EZ-RJ45 P/N 100023C

    Those crimpers arrived along with a box of pull-through plugs
    with cable support brackets.  I found getting the wires past the
    cable-support bracket to be such a pain I bent the bracket out of
    the way.  Then I found getting the once aligned wires (not EZ)
    into the crimper with the plug another time consuming task as I
    had to cut the wires shorter just past the plug end.  The razor
    missed part of the two outer wires, so this function too is not
    very good.  Then I found using the round crimp slot to crimp the
    bracket/cable support was not a good idea as it has a razor in
    the middle.  Then in addition to all the above, there's no good
    place to fasten a ground wire onto the new plugs.  I reverted
    back to using the old non-pull-through plugs and the new crimpers
    just for crimping.

    So then I found that since the round hole has a razor in the
    middle it must be for cutting the jacket off, it cuts into the
    wires too.  So all those razor blades aren't useful at all.  Just
    the racheting crimp part of the tool, it assures a correct amount
    of crimp and it doesn't wobble.  At least my old crimper was
    useful in scoring the jacket for removal.  Only works for some
    lan cables, not all.

    I still will have to carry: Crimpers, flush-cutting dykes,
    rotating jacket-cutter, needle-nose plyers for crimping the
    ground wire.  I guess it was too much to hope for in getting all
    of that in one tool.

    Gams

    On 3/10/21 7:10 AM, Jan Van Kort wrote:


    I placed an order last week for those crimpers and plugs, from
    streakwave, I haven't seen an acknowledgement of the order and
    the package hasn't shown up at my door yet.  Amazon would have
    done both by now.

    On 3/3/21 2:26 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:

    Thanks TJ,

    I am more interested in repeatable quality than saving a bit on
    a connector that is .39 at Streakwave but if they really are
    the same I might be interested down the road.  I've know the
    Shireen guys since they started, they are right down the road
    from our Baltimore office, and they have always been really
    good about QC.  I kind of like the idea of using their cable
    and connector. Any issues and I can just drop off a bag of cut
    off ends and ask them to figure out what the issue is.

    On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:05 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Every RJ45 mentioned in this thread so far actually come
        from the same factory, we buy them from the factory direct
        in bulk. If you can buy 1,000 pcs or more and want to save
        a bit hit me off  the list.

        On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:38 PM Josh Luthman
        <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            
https://www.streakwave.com/platinum-tools-100054c-ez-rj-pro-hd-crimp-tool
            
<https://www.streakwave.com/platinum-tools-100054c-ez-rj-pro-hd-crimp-tool>

            On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 4:29 PM Carl Peterson
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                This one?

                https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/crimper-tool-for-rj45-rj11-rj12
                <https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/crimper-tool-for-rj45-rj11-rj12>

                On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:49 PM Josh Luthman
                <[email protected]
                <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                    Tried to find that this morning to put in our
                    wiki, actually.  I got it from Streakwave.  My
                    guy is out of the office today, though.  And
                    the website is broken if you search crimper.

                    If you need it right away just call someone at
                    Streakwave and ask for crimpers.  If there are
                    multiple options, ask what Imagine Networks has
                    been buying.  The new ones are blue.

                    Josh Luthman
                    24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373


                    On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:58 PM Carl Peterson
                    <[email protected]
                    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        Thanks Josh,

                        Any chance you could send the info on the
                        tool you are using with them?


                        On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:19 PM Josh Luthman
                        <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            100% Shireen smartfeed connectors.  I
                            think they made the tool, too.  It
                            nearly eliminated our rj45/cat5
                            problems.  At least 99% resolved I'd say.

                            We tried Arc/Ubnt/Netonix in the past.

                            Josh Luthman
                            24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
                            Direct: 937-552-2343
                            1100 Wayne St
                            Suite 1337
                            Troy, OH 45373


                            On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:06 PM Carl
                            Peterson <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                                We currently use 2061 dies in
                                regular crimp frames.  Debating
                                buying new dies vs moving to
                                something else.  Looking for
                                something as tech-proof as possible
                                that doesn't rely on them knowing
                                how much to squeeze.  Any favorites
                                out there?  Any favorites on
                                Shielded RJ45s?  We currently use
                                the Netonix ones.

                                We have been seeing a lot more
                                ethernet cabling issues as of
                                late.  Trying to figure out why
                                that is and prevent it.



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