I always left something like 3/8" of that foil around the 8 pins to go in the RJ45. Not sure if that's necessary/useful.
Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 12:53 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: > send me your shipping address Jan (or anyone on the list) and I'll send > you some of these connectors and see if they help speed up the process. > > Amazon Crimpers > <https://www.amazon.com/Solsop-Crimp-Through-Modular-Crimping/dp/B08TBMYBMT/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=rj45+crimper&qid=1616345466&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyS0s4QjBDSVEzSFhWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTc5NDgxMUZHTTFCN1FRVjMwSyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzMwMDU4M0IzT0QzQzdYUFM2RCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=> > > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 8:21 AM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> That was quick n handy, what brand were those crimpers? >> On 3/21/21 6:51 AM, TJ Trout wrote: >> >> I made a video of how easy is should be to terminate shielded cable, >> maybe it can help someone >> >> https://youtu.be/b3ZmGqZeNcc >> >> & >> >> https://youtu.be/jNnOg4X_HqA >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 1:04 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I never use the shield stripper, I use a razor knife to cut it about an >>> inch back, pull out the tear string if there is one and use that to split >>> the jacket another inch or so (longer the exposed pairs are the easier they >>> are to untwist). I cut the jacket with scissors or razor knife, doesnt have >>> to be super neat since its past the jacket crimp in the connector anyway. >>> theres a trick to untwisting the pairs, you kind of wrap it around your >>> finger, pinch and pull out toward the end all at oonce and theyll untwist >>> as you go. when the twist is out, put your wires in order and pinch the >>> jacket end. grab the ordered pairs between your thumb and forefinger and >>> kind of rock and pull at the same time, it clears the kinks. cut your ends >>> flush, theyll slide into the connector easier and not get out of order. a >>> truck a tech showed me is once theyre through you twist them so one doesnt >>> bottom out in the crimper. >>> >>> for shielded I pull back about 8 inches of the jacket, if the foil will >>> fold back I fold I gut it to about a half inch and fold it back over the >>> inner jacket (outer as well if is a small diameter. then i take the drain >>> and wrap it around the jacked minimum 6 times, nice and tight. take pliers >>> and gently flatten it, it will slip into the shielded connector. I tape the >>> tail with a clean piece of black tape (always cut the tape, dont tear it or >>> it wont sit down smooth.) ends look nice and clean, the connector makes >>> good contact to the drain and shield. >>> >>> For heavy cable like bbdge I used to flatten the copper shield into the >>> connector.. dont, its too much diameter and eventually the end will crack >>> and you have broken cable end in your port that failed. For those use >>> unshielded ends on the inner jacket ad an external ground kit to bond the >>> copper shield to the radio chassis. >>> >>> unshielded ends take maybe 2 or 3 minutes, shielded take maybe 3 or 4 if >>> youre not doing them very often. if youre doing a bunch they get done >>> pretty quick if you do it assembly line (strip all of them, untwist all of >>> them, order all of them, flatten all of them, trim all of them, crimp all >>> of them) >>> >>> I dont use the strain reliefs you can get for them because of all the >>> variance in cable diameter, the boot offers little gain and half the time >>> theyre forgotten until after the crimp. I dont like the ones with the >>> external drain crimp so I dont use them, just seems in the way and has less >>> shield contact than the wrapped drain inside the connector. >>> >>> With the EZRJ45 you never have that pissy brown wire that doesnt want to >>> seat any time temps drop below freezing and you didnt bring your gloves. >>> Avoid overly cheap ends, ttheyre not worth the risk to find out after a >>> couple hundred in field that the pins will slip. The pennies per job dont >>> cover the cost of one of the many truck rolls they cause. And anybody who >>> doesnt replace their blades the minute they see beveling start of when the >>> wires start catching needs their throats slit and filled with salt. the >>> blades are like ten bucks, the truck rolls are more. Off brand crimpers >>> will save 20 or 30 bucks, the truck rolls will cost more. I cringe every >>> time i see an off brand crimper get pulled out, I just want to get my bag >>> of salt and straight razor out. >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:26 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Just trying to be fair>> >>>> >>>> I decided to just go make ends! un-boxed CMX brand CAT5e- no issues >>>> except for brown wire didn't cut clean, True-Cable CAT5e -Ditto, >>>> Honeywell-Ditto, PremeirTek CAT5e -Ditto, Ubiquiti-w/foil CAT5e - cutter >>>> nics the wire, brown wire not a clean cut, Ubiquiti with braid, braid gets >>>> cut and wires scored, brown wire not cut clean-this is a CAT6, not a fair >>>> test. Used the plugs P/N 100003B for the unshielded cable and Ubiquiti >>>> metalized connectors for shielded cable. (I'm tossing the box of >>>> connectors with the metal cable bracket as no crimp-tool for bracket) >>>> >>>> If I use my fingers to untwist the pairs so the wires don't resemble >>>> cork-screws, the wire will insert into the fitting ok, the other method >>>> using the cut jacket piece as an "un-twister" doesn't get a good review. >>>> Make-up time for pull-through vs non-pull-through is about the same amount >>>> of time. >>>> >>>> I like the way this EZ-RJ-Pro-HD crimps, it does a better job at >>>> grabbing the jacket and the cable-ends look professional. Think I'll keep >>>> using it. I can live with the dangling brown wire(pin8) >>>> >>>> gams >>>> On 3/17/21 9:51 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: >>>> >>>> Getting the wires into the plugs is not easy, it was a complete PITA. >>>> They (wires) would keep catching on something inside the plug. Other issue >>>> is getting them to go through and stay in the correct order. The only >>>> feature I liked about it was the jacket pushes into the connector further >>>> allowing its capture once crimped to be better. My normal time to make a >>>> connector with ground wire is under 5 minutes and I'm old with arthritis. >>>> This pull-thru gizmo took many tries and over half an hour. I put the >>>> Ubiquiti connector on the other end, simply because it's not such a PITA! >>>> >>>> gams >>>> On 3/17/21 9:22 AM, TJ Trout wrote: >>>> >>>> pass thru connectors exist with many grounding termination options.. >>>> >>>> you can twist the wires if you're having trouble getting the wires to >>>> go past the blade before crimping. >>>> >>>> really it's just a matter of getting used to a new process. >>>> >>>> It's a superior termination and it's faster, everyone should use them. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> PITA! Crimpers EZ-RJPRO and EZ-RJ45 P/N 100023C >>>>> >>>>> Those crimpers arrived along with a box of pull-through plugs with >>>>> cable support brackets. I found getting the wires past the cable-support >>>>> bracket to be such a pain I bent the bracket out of the way. Then I found >>>>> getting the once aligned wires (not EZ) into the crimper with the plug >>>>> another time consuming task as I had to cut the wires shorter just past >>>>> the >>>>> plug end. The razor missed part of the two outer wires, so this function >>>>> too is not very good. Then I found using the round crimp slot to crimp >>>>> the >>>>> bracket/cable support was not a good idea as it has a razor in the middle. >>>>> Then in addition to all the above, there's no good place to fasten a >>>>> ground >>>>> wire onto the new plugs. I reverted back to using the old >>>>> non-pull-through >>>>> plugs and the new crimpers just for crimping. >>>>> >>>>> So then I found that since the round hole has a razor in the middle it >>>>> must be for cutting the jacket off, it cuts into the wires too. So all >>>>> those razor blades aren't useful at all. Just the racheting crimp part of >>>>> the tool, it assures a correct amount of crimp and it doesn't wobble. At >>>>> least my old crimper was useful in scoring the jacket for removal. Only >>>>> works for some lan cables, not all. >>>>> >>>>> I still will have to carry: Crimpers, flush-cutting dykes, rotating >>>>> jacket-cutter, needle-nose plyers for crimping the ground wire. I guess >>>>> it >>>>> was too much to hope for in getting all of that in one tool. >>>>> >>>>> Gams >>>>> On 3/10/21 7:10 AM, Jan Van Kort wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I placed an order last week for those crimpers and plugs, from >>>>> streakwave, I haven't seen an acknowledgement of the order and the package >>>>> hasn't shown up at my door yet. Amazon would have done both by now. >>>>> On 3/3/21 2:26 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks TJ, >>>>> >>>>> I am more interested in repeatable quality than saving a bit on a >>>>> connector that is .39 at Streakwave but if they really are the same I >>>>> might >>>>> be interested down the road. I've know the Shireen guys since they >>>>> started, they are right down the road from our Baltimore office, and they >>>>> have always been really good about QC. I kind of like the idea of using >>>>> their cable and connector. Any issues and I can just drop off a bag of >>>>> cut >>>>> off ends and ask them to figure out what the issue is. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:05 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Every RJ45 mentioned in this thread so far actually come from the >>>>>> same factory, we buy them from the factory direct in bulk. If you can buy >>>>>> 1,000 pcs or more and want to save a bit hit me off the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:38 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.streakwave.com/platinum-tools-100054c-ez-rj-pro-hd-crimp-tool >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 4:29 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This one? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/crimper-tool-for-rj45-rj11-rj12 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:49 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tried to find that this morning to put in our wiki, actually. I >>>>>>>>> got it from Streakwave. My guy is out of the office today, though. >>>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>>> the website is broken if you search crimper. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you need it right away just call someone at Streakwave and ask >>>>>>>>> for crimpers. If there are multiple options, ask what Imagine >>>>>>>>> Networks has >>>>>>>>> been buying. The new ones are blue. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:58 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Josh, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any chance you could send the info on the tool you are using with >>>>>>>>>> them? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:19 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 100% Shireen smartfeed connectors. I think they made the tool, >>>>>>>>>>> too. It nearly eliminated our rj45/cat5 problems. At least 99% >>>>>>>>>>> resolved >>>>>>>>>>> I'd say. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We tried Arc/Ubnt/Netonix in the past. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:06 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We currently use 2061 dies in regular crimp frames. Debating >>>>>>>>>>>> buying new dies vs moving to something else. Looking for >>>>>>>>>>>> something as >>>>>>>>>>>> tech-proof as possible that doesn't rely on them knowing how much >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> squeeze. Any favorites out there? Any favorites on Shielded >>>>>>>>>>>> RJ45s? We >>>>>>>>>>>> currently use the Netonix ones. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> We have been seeing a lot more ethernet cabling issues as of >>>>>>>>>>>> late. Trying to figure out why that is and prevent it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Carl Peterson >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> (410) 637-3707 >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Carl Peterson >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (410) 637-3707 >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Carl Peterson >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (410) 637-3707 >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Carl Peterson >>>>> >>>>> *PORT NETWORKS* >>>>> >>>>> 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 >>>>> >>>>> Baltimore, MD 21202 >>>>> >>>>> (410) 637-3707 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
-- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
