That was quick n handy, what brand were those crimpers?
On 3/21/21 6:51 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
I made a video of how easy is should be to terminate shielded cable,
maybe it can help someone
https://youtu.be/b3ZmGqZeNcc <https://youtu.be/b3ZmGqZeNcc>
&
https://youtu.be/jNnOg4X_HqA <https://youtu.be/jNnOg4X_HqA>
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 1:04 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I never use the shield stripper, I use a razor knife to cut it
about an inch back, pull out the tear string if there is one and
use that to split the jacket another inch or so (longer the
exposed pairs are the easier they are to untwist). I cut the
jacket with scissors or razor knife, doesnt have to be super neat
since its past the jacket crimp in the connector anyway. theres a
trick to untwisting the pairs, you kind of wrap it around your
finger, pinch and pull out toward the end all at oonce and theyll
untwist as you go. when the twist is out, put your wires in order
and pinch the jacket end. grab the ordered pairs between your
thumb and forefinger and kind of rock and pull at the same time,
it clears the kinks. cut your ends flush, theyll slide into the
connector easier and not get out of order. a truck a tech showed
me is once theyre through you twist them so one doesnt bottom out
in the crimper.
for shielded I pull back about 8 inches of the jacket, if the foil
will fold back I fold I gut it to about a half inch and fold it
back over the inner jacket (outer as well if is a small diameter.
then i take the drain and wrap it around the jacked minimum 6
times, nice and tight. take pliers and gently flatten it, it will
slip into the shielded connector. I tape the tail with a clean
piece of black tape (always cut the tape, dont tear it or it wont
sit down smooth.) ends look nice and clean, the connector makes
good contact to the drain and shield.
For heavy cable like bbdge I used to flatten the copper shield
into the connector.. dont, its too much diameter and eventually
the end will crack and you have broken cable end in your port that
failed. For those use unshielded ends on the inner jacket ad an
external ground kit to bond the copper shield to the radio chassis.
unshielded ends take maybe 2 or 3 minutes, shielded take maybe 3
or 4 if youre not doing them very often. if youre doing a bunch
they get done pretty quick if you do it assembly line (strip all
of them, untwist all of them, order all of them, flatten all of
them, trim all of them, crimp all of them)
I dont use the strain reliefs you can get for them because of all
the variance in cable diameter, the boot offers little gain and
half the time theyre forgotten until after the crimp. I dont like
the ones with the external drain crimp so I dont use them, just
seems in the way and has less shield contact than the wrapped
drain inside the connector.
With the EZRJ45 you never have that pissy brown wire that doesnt
want to seat any time temps drop below freezing and you
didnt bring your gloves. Avoid overly cheap ends, ttheyre not
worth the risk to find out after a couple hundred in field that
the pins will slip. The pennies per job dont cover the cost of one
of the many truck rolls they cause. And anybody who doesnt replace
their blades the minute they see beveling start of when the wires
start catching needs their throats slit and filled with salt. the
blades are like ten bucks, the truck rolls are more. Off brand
crimpers will save 20 or 30 bucks, the truck rolls will cost more.
I cringe every time i see an off brand crimper get pulled out, I
just want to get my bag of salt and straight razor out.
On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:26 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Just trying to be fair>>
I decided to just go make ends! un-boxed CMX brand CAT5e- no
issues except for brown wire didn't cut clean, True-Cable
CAT5e -Ditto, Honeywell-Ditto, PremeirTek CAT5e -Ditto,
Ubiquiti-w/foil CAT5e - cutter nics the wire, brown wire not a
clean cut, Ubiquiti with braid, braid gets cut and wires
scored, brown wire not cut clean-this is a CAT6, not a fair
test. Used the plugs P/N 100003B for the unshielded cable and
Ubiquiti metalized connectors for shielded cable. (I'm
tossing the box of connectors with the metal cable bracket as
no crimp-tool for bracket)
If I use my fingers to untwist the pairs so the wires don't
resemble cork-screws, the wire will insert into the fitting
ok, the other method using the cut jacket piece as an
"un-twister" doesn't get a good review. Make-up time for
pull-through vs non-pull-through is about the same amount of time.
I like the way this EZ-RJ-Pro-HD crimps, it does a better job
at grabbing the jacket and the cable-ends look professional.
Think I'll keep using it. I can live with the dangling brown
wire(pin8)
gams
On 3/17/21 9:51 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:
Getting the wires into the plugs is not easy, it was a
complete PITA. They (wires) would keep catching on something
inside the plug. Other issue is getting them to go through
and stay in the correct order. The only feature I liked
about it was the jacket pushes into the connector further
allowing its capture once crimped to be better. My normal
time to make a connector with ground wire is under 5 minutes
and I'm old with arthritis. This pull-thru gizmo took many
tries and over half an hour. I put the Ubiquiti connector on
the other end, simply because it's not such a PITA!
gams
On 3/17/21 9:22 AM, TJ Trout wrote:
pass thru connectors exist with many grounding termination
options..
you can twist the wires if you're having trouble getting
the wires to go past the blade before crimping.
really it's just a matter of getting used to a new process.
It's a superior termination and it's faster, everyone should
use them.
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM Jan-GAMs
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
PITA! Crimpers EZ-RJPRO and EZ-RJ45 P/N 100023C
Those crimpers arrived along with a box of pull-through
plugs with cable support brackets. I found getting the
wires past the cable-support bracket to be such a pain I
bent the bracket out of the way. Then I found getting
the once aligned wires (not EZ) into the crimper with
the plug another time consuming task as I had to cut the
wires shorter just past the plug end. The razor missed
part of the two outer wires, so this function too is not
very good. Then I found using the round crimp slot to
crimp the bracket/cable support was not a good idea as
it has a razor in the middle. Then in addition to all
the above, there's no good place to fasten a ground wire
onto the new plugs. I reverted back to using the old
non-pull-through plugs and the new crimpers just for
crimping.
So then I found that since the round hole has a razor in
the middle it must be for cutting the jacket off, it
cuts into the wires too. So all those razor blades
aren't useful at all. Just the racheting crimp part of
the tool, it assures a correct amount of crimp and it
doesn't wobble. At least my old crimper was useful in
scoring the jacket for removal. Only works for some lan
cables, not all.
I still will have to carry: Crimpers, flush-cutting
dykes, rotating jacket-cutter, needle-nose plyers for
crimping the ground wire. I guess it was too much to
hope for in getting all of that in one tool.
Gams
On 3/10/21 7:10 AM, Jan Van Kort wrote:
I placed an order last week for those crimpers and
plugs, from streakwave, I haven't seen an
acknowledgement of the order and the package hasn't
shown up at my door yet. Amazon would have done both
by now.
On 3/3/21 2:26 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:
Thanks TJ,
I am more interested in repeatable quality than saving
a bit on a connector that is .39 at Streakwave but if
they really are the same I might be interested down
the road. I've know the Shireen guys since they
started, they are right down the road from our
Baltimore office, and they have always been really
good about QC. I kind of like the idea of using their
cable and connector. Any issues and I can just drop
off a bag of cut off ends and ask them to figure out
what the issue is.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:05 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Every RJ45 mentioned in this thread so far
actually come from the same factory, we buy them
from the factory direct in bulk. If you can buy
1,000 pcs or more and want to save a bit hit me
off the list.
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:38 PM Josh Luthman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
https://www.streakwave.com/platinum-tools-100054c-ez-rj-pro-hd-crimp-tool
<https://www.streakwave.com/platinum-tools-100054c-ez-rj-pro-hd-crimp-tool>
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 4:29 PM Carl Peterson
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
This one?
https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/crimper-tool-for-rj45-rj11-rj12
<https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/crimper-tool-for-rj45-rj11-rj12>
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:49 PM Josh
Luthman <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Tried to find that this morning to put
in our wiki, actually. I got it from
Streakwave. My guy is out of the
office today, though. And the website
is broken if you search crimper.
If you need it right away just call
someone at Streakwave and ask for
crimpers. If there are multiple
options, ask what Imagine Networks has
been buying. The new ones are blue.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:58 PM Carl
Peterson <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Thanks Josh,
Any chance you could send the info
on the tool you are using with them?
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:19 PM
Josh Luthman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
100% Shireen smartfeed
connectors. I think they made
the tool, too. It nearly
eliminated our rj45/cat5
problems. At least 99%
resolved I'd say.
We tried Arc/Ubnt/Netonix in
the past.
Josh Luthman
24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:06 PM
Carl Peterson
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
We currently use 2061 dies
in regular crimp frames.
Debating buying new dies
vs moving to something
else. Looking for
something as tech-proof as
possible that doesn't rely
on them knowing how much
to squeeze. Any favorites
out there? Any favorites
on Shielded RJ45s? We
currently use the Netonix
ones.
We have been seeing a lot
more ethernet cabling
issues as of late. Trying
to figure out why that is
and prevent it.
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