send me your shipping address Jan (or anyone on the list) and I'll send you some of these connectors and see if they help speed up the process.
Amazon Crimpers <https://www.amazon.com/Solsop-Crimp-Through-Modular-Crimping/dp/B08TBMYBMT/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=rj45+crimper&qid=1616345466&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyS0s4QjBDSVEzSFhWJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTc5NDgxMUZHTTFCN1FRVjMwSyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzMwMDU4M0IzT0QzQzdYUFM2RCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=> On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 8:21 AM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: > That was quick n handy, what brand were those crimpers? > On 3/21/21 6:51 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > > I made a video of how easy is should be to terminate shielded cable, maybe > it can help someone > > https://youtu.be/b3ZmGqZeNcc > > & > > https://youtu.be/jNnOg4X_HqA > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 1:04 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I never use the shield stripper, I use a razor knife to cut it about an >> inch back, pull out the tear string if there is one and use that to split >> the jacket another inch or so (longer the exposed pairs are the easier they >> are to untwist). I cut the jacket with scissors or razor knife, doesnt have >> to be super neat since its past the jacket crimp in the connector anyway. >> theres a trick to untwisting the pairs, you kind of wrap it around your >> finger, pinch and pull out toward the end all at oonce and theyll untwist >> as you go. when the twist is out, put your wires in order and pinch the >> jacket end. grab the ordered pairs between your thumb and forefinger and >> kind of rock and pull at the same time, it clears the kinks. cut your ends >> flush, theyll slide into the connector easier and not get out of order. a >> truck a tech showed me is once theyre through you twist them so one doesnt >> bottom out in the crimper. >> >> for shielded I pull back about 8 inches of the jacket, if the foil will >> fold back I fold I gut it to about a half inch and fold it back over the >> inner jacket (outer as well if is a small diameter. then i take the drain >> and wrap it around the jacked minimum 6 times, nice and tight. take pliers >> and gently flatten it, it will slip into the shielded connector. I tape the >> tail with a clean piece of black tape (always cut the tape, dont tear it or >> it wont sit down smooth.) ends look nice and clean, the connector makes >> good contact to the drain and shield. >> >> For heavy cable like bbdge I used to flatten the copper shield into the >> connector.. dont, its too much diameter and eventually the end will crack >> and you have broken cable end in your port that failed. For those use >> unshielded ends on the inner jacket ad an external ground kit to bond the >> copper shield to the radio chassis. >> >> unshielded ends take maybe 2 or 3 minutes, shielded take maybe 3 or 4 if >> youre not doing them very often. if youre doing a bunch they get done >> pretty quick if you do it assembly line (strip all of them, untwist all of >> them, order all of them, flatten all of them, trim all of them, crimp all >> of them) >> >> I dont use the strain reliefs you can get for them because of all the >> variance in cable diameter, the boot offers little gain and half the time >> theyre forgotten until after the crimp. I dont like the ones with the >> external drain crimp so I dont use them, just seems in the way and has less >> shield contact than the wrapped drain inside the connector. >> >> With the EZRJ45 you never have that pissy brown wire that doesnt want to >> seat any time temps drop below freezing and you didnt bring your gloves. >> Avoid overly cheap ends, ttheyre not worth the risk to find out after a >> couple hundred in field that the pins will slip. The pennies per job dont >> cover the cost of one of the many truck rolls they cause. And anybody who >> doesnt replace their blades the minute they see beveling start of when the >> wires start catching needs their throats slit and filled with salt. the >> blades are like ten bucks, the truck rolls are more. Off brand crimpers >> will save 20 or 30 bucks, the truck rolls will cost more. I cringe every >> time i see an off brand crimper get pulled out, I just want to get my bag >> of salt and straight razor out. >> >> On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:26 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Just trying to be fair>> >>> >>> I decided to just go make ends! un-boxed CMX brand CAT5e- no issues >>> except for brown wire didn't cut clean, True-Cable CAT5e -Ditto, >>> Honeywell-Ditto, PremeirTek CAT5e -Ditto, Ubiquiti-w/foil CAT5e - cutter >>> nics the wire, brown wire not a clean cut, Ubiquiti with braid, braid gets >>> cut and wires scored, brown wire not cut clean-this is a CAT6, not a fair >>> test. Used the plugs P/N 100003B for the unshielded cable and Ubiquiti >>> metalized connectors for shielded cable. (I'm tossing the box of >>> connectors with the metal cable bracket as no crimp-tool for bracket) >>> >>> If I use my fingers to untwist the pairs so the wires don't resemble >>> cork-screws, the wire will insert into the fitting ok, the other method >>> using the cut jacket piece as an "un-twister" doesn't get a good review. >>> Make-up time for pull-through vs non-pull-through is about the same amount >>> of time. >>> >>> I like the way this EZ-RJ-Pro-HD crimps, it does a better job at >>> grabbing the jacket and the cable-ends look professional. Think I'll keep >>> using it. I can live with the dangling brown wire(pin8) >>> >>> gams >>> On 3/17/21 9:51 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: >>> >>> Getting the wires into the plugs is not easy, it was a complete PITA. >>> They (wires) would keep catching on something inside the plug. Other issue >>> is getting them to go through and stay in the correct order. The only >>> feature I liked about it was the jacket pushes into the connector further >>> allowing its capture once crimped to be better. My normal time to make a >>> connector with ground wire is under 5 minutes and I'm old with arthritis. >>> This pull-thru gizmo took many tries and over half an hour. I put the >>> Ubiquiti connector on the other end, simply because it's not such a PITA! >>> >>> gams >>> On 3/17/21 9:22 AM, TJ Trout wrote: >>> >>> pass thru connectors exist with many grounding termination options.. >>> >>> you can twist the wires if you're having trouble getting the wires to >>> go past the blade before crimping. >>> >>> really it's just a matter of getting used to a new process. >>> >>> It's a superior termination and it's faster, everyone should use them. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> PITA! Crimpers EZ-RJPRO and EZ-RJ45 P/N 100023C >>>> >>>> Those crimpers arrived along with a box of pull-through plugs with >>>> cable support brackets. I found getting the wires past the cable-support >>>> bracket to be such a pain I bent the bracket out of the way. Then I found >>>> getting the once aligned wires (not EZ) into the crimper with the plug >>>> another time consuming task as I had to cut the wires shorter just past the >>>> plug end. The razor missed part of the two outer wires, so this function >>>> too is not very good. Then I found using the round crimp slot to crimp the >>>> bracket/cable support was not a good idea as it has a razor in the middle. >>>> Then in addition to all the above, there's no good place to fasten a ground >>>> wire onto the new plugs. I reverted back to using the old non-pull-through >>>> plugs and the new crimpers just for crimping. >>>> >>>> So then I found that since the round hole has a razor in the middle it >>>> must be for cutting the jacket off, it cuts into the wires too. So all >>>> those razor blades aren't useful at all. Just the racheting crimp part of >>>> the tool, it assures a correct amount of crimp and it doesn't wobble. At >>>> least my old crimper was useful in scoring the jacket for removal. Only >>>> works for some lan cables, not all. >>>> >>>> I still will have to carry: Crimpers, flush-cutting dykes, rotating >>>> jacket-cutter, needle-nose plyers for crimping the ground wire. I guess it >>>> was too much to hope for in getting all of that in one tool. >>>> >>>> Gams >>>> On 3/10/21 7:10 AM, Jan Van Kort wrote: >>>> >>>> I placed an order last week for those crimpers and plugs, from >>>> streakwave, I haven't seen an acknowledgement of the order and the package >>>> hasn't shown up at my door yet. Amazon would have done both by now. >>>> On 3/3/21 2:26 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks TJ, >>>> >>>> I am more interested in repeatable quality than saving a bit on a >>>> connector that is .39 at Streakwave but if they really are the same I might >>>> be interested down the road. I've know the Shireen guys since they >>>> started, they are right down the road from our Baltimore office, and they >>>> have always been really good about QC. I kind of like the idea of using >>>> their cable and connector. Any issues and I can just drop off a bag of cut >>>> off ends and ask them to figure out what the issue is. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:05 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Every RJ45 mentioned in this thread so far actually come from the same >>>>> factory, we buy them from the factory direct in bulk. If you can buy 1,000 >>>>> pcs or more and want to save a bit hit me off the list. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:38 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.streakwave.com/platinum-tools-100054c-ez-rj-pro-hd-crimp-tool >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 4:29 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This one? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/crimper-tool-for-rj45-rj11-rj12 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:49 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tried to find that this morning to put in our wiki, actually. I >>>>>>>> got it from Streakwave. My guy is out of the office today, though. >>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>> the website is broken if you search crimper. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you need it right away just call someone at Streakwave and ask >>>>>>>> for crimpers. If there are multiple options, ask what Imagine >>>>>>>> Networks has >>>>>>>> been buying. The new ones are blue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:58 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Josh, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any chance you could send the info on the tool you are using with >>>>>>>>> them? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:19 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 100% Shireen smartfeed connectors. I think they made the tool, >>>>>>>>>> too. It nearly eliminated our rj45/cat5 problems. At least 99% >>>>>>>>>> resolved >>>>>>>>>> I'd say. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We tried Arc/Ubnt/Netonix in the past. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:06 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We currently use 2061 dies in regular crimp frames. Debating >>>>>>>>>>> buying new dies vs moving to something else. Looking for something >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> tech-proof as possible that doesn't rely on them knowing how much to >>>>>>>>>>> squeeze. Any favorites out there? Any favorites on Shielded >>>>>>>>>>> RJ45s? We >>>>>>>>>>> currently use the Netonix ones. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> We have been seeing a lot more ethernet cabling issues as of >>>>>>>>>>> late. 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