I never use the shield stripper, I use a razor knife to cut it about an inch back, pull out the tear string if there is one and use that to split the jacket another inch or so (longer the exposed pairs are the easier they are to untwist). I cut the jacket with scissors or razor knife, doesnt have to be super neat since its past the jacket crimp in the connector anyway. theres a trick to untwisting the pairs, you kind of wrap it around your finger, pinch and pull out toward the end all at oonce and theyll untwist as you go. when the twist is out, put your wires in order and pinch the jacket end. grab the ordered pairs between your thumb and forefinger and kind of rock and pull at the same time, it clears the kinks. cut your ends flush, theyll slide into the connector easier and not get out of order. a truck a tech showed me is once theyre through you twist them so one doesnt bottom out in the crimper.
for shielded I pull back about 8 inches of the jacket, if the foil will fold back I fold I gut it to about a half inch and fold it back over the inner jacket (outer as well if is a small diameter. then i take the drain and wrap it around the jacked minimum 6 times, nice and tight. take pliers and gently flatten it, it will slip into the shielded connector. I tape the tail with a clean piece of black tape (always cut the tape, dont tear it or it wont sit down smooth.) ends look nice and clean, the connector makes good contact to the drain and shield. For heavy cable like bbdge I used to flatten the copper shield into the connector.. dont, its too much diameter and eventually the end will crack and you have broken cable end in your port that failed. For those use unshielded ends on the inner jacket ad an external ground kit to bond the copper shield to the radio chassis. unshielded ends take maybe 2 or 3 minutes, shielded take maybe 3 or 4 if youre not doing them very often. if youre doing a bunch they get done pretty quick if you do it assembly line (strip all of them, untwist all of them, order all of them, flatten all of them, trim all of them, crimp all of them) I dont use the strain reliefs you can get for them because of all the variance in cable diameter, the boot offers little gain and half the time theyre forgotten until after the crimp. I dont like the ones with the external drain crimp so I dont use them, just seems in the way and has less shield contact than the wrapped drain inside the connector. With the EZRJ45 you never have that pissy brown wire that doesnt want to seat any time temps drop below freezing and you didnt bring your gloves. Avoid overly cheap ends, ttheyre not worth the risk to find out after a couple hundred in field that the pins will slip. The pennies per job dont cover the cost of one of the many truck rolls they cause. And anybody who doesnt replace their blades the minute they see beveling start of when the wires start catching needs their throats slit and filled with salt. the blades are like ten bucks, the truck rolls are more. Off brand crimpers will save 20 or 30 bucks, the truck rolls will cost more. I cringe every time i see an off brand crimper get pulled out, I just want to get my bag of salt and straight razor out. On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:26 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: > Just trying to be fair>> > > I decided to just go make ends! un-boxed CMX brand CAT5e- no issues > except for brown wire didn't cut clean, True-Cable CAT5e -Ditto, > Honeywell-Ditto, PremeirTek CAT5e -Ditto, Ubiquiti-w/foil CAT5e - cutter > nics the wire, brown wire not a clean cut, Ubiquiti with braid, braid gets > cut and wires scored, brown wire not cut clean-this is a CAT6, not a fair > test. Used the plugs P/N 100003B for the unshielded cable and Ubiquiti > metalized connectors for shielded cable. (I'm tossing the box of > connectors with the metal cable bracket as no crimp-tool for bracket) > > If I use my fingers to untwist the pairs so the wires don't resemble > cork-screws, the wire will insert into the fitting ok, the other method > using the cut jacket piece as an "un-twister" doesn't get a good review. > Make-up time for pull-through vs non-pull-through is about the same amount > of time. > > I like the way this EZ-RJ-Pro-HD crimps, it does a better job at grabbing > the jacket and the cable-ends look professional. Think I'll keep using > it. I can live with the dangling brown wire(pin8) > > gams > On 3/17/21 9:51 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: > > Getting the wires into the plugs is not easy, it was a complete PITA. > They (wires) would keep catching on something inside the plug. Other issue > is getting them to go through and stay in the correct order. The only > feature I liked about it was the jacket pushes into the connector further > allowing its capture once crimped to be better. My normal time to make a > connector with ground wire is under 5 minutes and I'm old with arthritis. > This pull-thru gizmo took many tries and over half an hour. I put the > Ubiquiti connector on the other end, simply because it's not such a PITA! > > gams > On 3/17/21 9:22 AM, TJ Trout wrote: > > pass thru connectors exist with many grounding termination options.. > > you can twist the wires if you're having trouble getting the wires to go > past the blade before crimping. > > really it's just a matter of getting used to a new process. > > It's a superior termination and it's faster, everyone should use them. > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> PITA! Crimpers EZ-RJPRO and EZ-RJ45 P/N 100023C >> >> Those crimpers arrived along with a box of pull-through plugs with cable >> support brackets. I found getting the wires past the cable-support bracket >> to be such a pain I bent the bracket out of the way. Then I found getting >> the once aligned wires (not EZ) into the crimper with the plug another time >> consuming task as I had to cut the wires shorter just past the plug end. >> The razor missed part of the two outer wires, so this function too is not >> very good. Then I found using the round crimp slot to crimp the >> bracket/cable support was not a good idea as it has a razor in the middle. >> Then in addition to all the above, there's no good place to fasten a ground >> wire onto the new plugs. I reverted back to using the old non-pull-through >> plugs and the new crimpers just for crimping. >> >> So then I found that since the round hole has a razor in the middle it >> must be for cutting the jacket off, it cuts into the wires too. So all >> those razor blades aren't useful at all. Just the racheting crimp part of >> the tool, it assures a correct amount of crimp and it doesn't wobble. At >> least my old crimper was useful in scoring the jacket for removal. Only >> works for some lan cables, not all. >> >> I still will have to carry: Crimpers, flush-cutting dykes, rotating >> jacket-cutter, needle-nose plyers for crimping the ground wire. I guess it >> was too much to hope for in getting all of that in one tool. >> >> Gams >> On 3/10/21 7:10 AM, Jan Van Kort wrote: >> >> I placed an order last week for those crimpers and plugs, from >> streakwave, I haven't seen an acknowledgement of the order and the package >> hasn't shown up at my door yet. Amazon would have done both by now. >> On 3/3/21 2:26 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: >> >> Thanks TJ, >> >> I am more interested in repeatable quality than saving a bit on a >> connector that is .39 at Streakwave but if they really are the same I might >> be interested down the road. I've know the Shireen guys since they >> started, they are right down the road from our Baltimore office, and they >> have always been really good about QC. I kind of like the idea of using >> their cable and connector. Any issues and I can just drop off a bag of cut >> off ends and ask them to figure out what the issue is. >> >> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:05 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Every RJ45 mentioned in this thread so far actually come from the same >>> factory, we buy them from the factory direct in bulk. If you can buy 1,000 >>> pcs or more and want to save a bit hit me off the list. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:38 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> https://www.streakwave.com/platinum-tools-100054c-ez-rj-pro-hd-crimp-tool >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 4:29 PM Carl Peterson <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This one? >>>>> >>>>> https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/crimper-tool-for-rj45-rj11-rj12 >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:49 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Tried to find that this morning to put in our wiki, actually. I got >>>>>> it from Streakwave. My guy is out of the office today, though. And the >>>>>> website is broken if you search crimper. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you need it right away just call someone at Streakwave and ask for >>>>>> crimpers. If there are multiple options, ask what Imagine Networks has >>>>>> been buying. The new ones are blue. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:58 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Josh, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any chance you could send the info on the tool you are using with >>>>>>> them? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:19 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 100% Shireen smartfeed connectors. I think they made the tool, >>>>>>>> too. It nearly eliminated our rj45/cat5 problems. At least 99% >>>>>>>> resolved >>>>>>>> I'd say. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We tried Arc/Ubnt/Netonix in the past. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:06 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We currently use 2061 dies in regular crimp frames. Debating >>>>>>>>> buying new dies vs moving to something else. Looking for something as >>>>>>>>> tech-proof as possible that doesn't rely on them knowing how much to >>>>>>>>> squeeze. Any favorites out there? Any favorites on Shielded RJ45s? >>>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>> currently use the Netonix ones. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have been seeing a lot more ethernet cabling issues as of >>>>>>>>> late. 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