I made a video of how easy is should be to terminate shielded cable, maybe it can help someone
https://youtu.be/b3ZmGqZeNcc & https://youtu.be/jNnOg4X_HqA On Fri, Mar 19, 2021, 1:04 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > I never use the shield stripper, I use a razor knife to cut it about an > inch back, pull out the tear string if there is one and use that to split > the jacket another inch or so (longer the exposed pairs are the easier they > are to untwist). I cut the jacket with scissors or razor knife, doesnt have > to be super neat since its past the jacket crimp in the connector anyway. > theres a trick to untwisting the pairs, you kind of wrap it around your > finger, pinch and pull out toward the end all at oonce and theyll untwist > as you go. when the twist is out, put your wires in order and pinch the > jacket end. grab the ordered pairs between your thumb and forefinger and > kind of rock and pull at the same time, it clears the kinks. cut your ends > flush, theyll slide into the connector easier and not get out of order. a > truck a tech showed me is once theyre through you twist them so one doesnt > bottom out in the crimper. > > for shielded I pull back about 8 inches of the jacket, if the foil will > fold back I fold I gut it to about a half inch and fold it back over the > inner jacket (outer as well if is a small diameter. then i take the drain > and wrap it around the jacked minimum 6 times, nice and tight. take pliers > and gently flatten it, it will slip into the shielded connector. I tape the > tail with a clean piece of black tape (always cut the tape, dont tear it or > it wont sit down smooth.) ends look nice and clean, the connector makes > good contact to the drain and shield. > > For heavy cable like bbdge I used to flatten the copper shield into the > connector.. dont, its too much diameter and eventually the end will crack > and you have broken cable end in your port that failed. For those use > unshielded ends on the inner jacket ad an external ground kit to bond the > copper shield to the radio chassis. > > unshielded ends take maybe 2 or 3 minutes, shielded take maybe 3 or 4 if > youre not doing them very often. if youre doing a bunch they get done > pretty quick if you do it assembly line (strip all of them, untwist all of > them, order all of them, flatten all of them, trim all of them, crimp all > of them) > > I dont use the strain reliefs you can get for them because of all the > variance in cable diameter, the boot offers little gain and half the time > theyre forgotten until after the crimp. I dont like the ones with the > external drain crimp so I dont use them, just seems in the way and has less > shield contact than the wrapped drain inside the connector. > > With the EZRJ45 you never have that pissy brown wire that doesnt want to > seat any time temps drop below freezing and you didnt bring your gloves. > Avoid overly cheap ends, ttheyre not worth the risk to find out after a > couple hundred in field that the pins will slip. The pennies per job dont > cover the cost of one of the many truck rolls they cause. And anybody who > doesnt replace their blades the minute they see beveling start of when the > wires start catching needs their throats slit and filled with salt. the > blades are like ten bucks, the truck rolls are more. Off brand crimpers > will save 20 or 30 bucks, the truck rolls will cost more. I cringe every > time i see an off brand crimper get pulled out, I just want to get my bag > of salt and straight razor out. > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 1:26 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just trying to be fair>> >> >> I decided to just go make ends! un-boxed CMX brand CAT5e- no issues >> except for brown wire didn't cut clean, True-Cable CAT5e -Ditto, >> Honeywell-Ditto, PremeirTek CAT5e -Ditto, Ubiquiti-w/foil CAT5e - cutter >> nics the wire, brown wire not a clean cut, Ubiquiti with braid, braid gets >> cut and wires scored, brown wire not cut clean-this is a CAT6, not a fair >> test. Used the plugs P/N 100003B for the unshielded cable and Ubiquiti >> metalized connectors for shielded cable. (I'm tossing the box of >> connectors with the metal cable bracket as no crimp-tool for bracket) >> >> If I use my fingers to untwist the pairs so the wires don't resemble >> cork-screws, the wire will insert into the fitting ok, the other method >> using the cut jacket piece as an "un-twister" doesn't get a good review. >> Make-up time for pull-through vs non-pull-through is about the same amount >> of time. >> >> I like the way this EZ-RJ-Pro-HD crimps, it does a better job at grabbing >> the jacket and the cable-ends look professional. Think I'll keep using >> it. I can live with the dangling brown wire(pin8) >> >> gams >> On 3/17/21 9:51 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote: >> >> Getting the wires into the plugs is not easy, it was a complete PITA. >> They (wires) would keep catching on something inside the plug. Other issue >> is getting them to go through and stay in the correct order. The only >> feature I liked about it was the jacket pushes into the connector further >> allowing its capture once crimped to be better. My normal time to make a >> connector with ground wire is under 5 minutes and I'm old with arthritis. >> This pull-thru gizmo took many tries and over half an hour. I put the >> Ubiquiti connector on the other end, simply because it's not such a PITA! >> >> gams >> On 3/17/21 9:22 AM, TJ Trout wrote: >> >> pass thru connectors exist with many grounding termination options.. >> >> you can twist the wires if you're having trouble getting the wires to go >> past the blade before crimping. >> >> really it's just a matter of getting used to a new process. >> >> It's a superior termination and it's faster, everyone should use them. >> >> On Wed, Mar 17, 2021, 8:57 AM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> PITA! Crimpers EZ-RJPRO and EZ-RJ45 P/N 100023C >>> >>> Those crimpers arrived along with a box of pull-through plugs with cable >>> support brackets. I found getting the wires past the cable-support bracket >>> to be such a pain I bent the bracket out of the way. Then I found getting >>> the once aligned wires (not EZ) into the crimper with the plug another time >>> consuming task as I had to cut the wires shorter just past the plug end. >>> The razor missed part of the two outer wires, so this function too is not >>> very good. Then I found using the round crimp slot to crimp the >>> bracket/cable support was not a good idea as it has a razor in the middle. >>> Then in addition to all the above, there's no good place to fasten a ground >>> wire onto the new plugs. I reverted back to using the old non-pull-through >>> plugs and the new crimpers just for crimping. >>> >>> So then I found that since the round hole has a razor in the middle it >>> must be for cutting the jacket off, it cuts into the wires too. So all >>> those razor blades aren't useful at all. Just the racheting crimp part of >>> the tool, it assures a correct amount of crimp and it doesn't wobble. At >>> least my old crimper was useful in scoring the jacket for removal. Only >>> works for some lan cables, not all. >>> >>> I still will have to carry: Crimpers, flush-cutting dykes, rotating >>> jacket-cutter, needle-nose plyers for crimping the ground wire. I guess it >>> was too much to hope for in getting all of that in one tool. >>> >>> Gams >>> On 3/10/21 7:10 AM, Jan Van Kort wrote: >>> >>> I placed an order last week for those crimpers and plugs, from >>> streakwave, I haven't seen an acknowledgement of the order and the package >>> hasn't shown up at my door yet. Amazon would have done both by now. >>> On 3/3/21 2:26 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: >>> >>> Thanks TJ, >>> >>> I am more interested in repeatable quality than saving a bit on a >>> connector that is .39 at Streakwave but if they really are the same I might >>> be interested down the road. I've know the Shireen guys since they >>> started, they are right down the road from our Baltimore office, and they >>> have always been really good about QC. I kind of like the idea of using >>> their cable and connector. Any issues and I can just drop off a bag of cut >>> off ends and ask them to figure out what the issue is. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 4:05 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Every RJ45 mentioned in this thread so far actually come from the same >>>> factory, we buy them from the factory direct in bulk. If you can buy 1,000 >>>> pcs or more and want to save a bit hit me off the list. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 1:38 PM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.streakwave.com/platinum-tools-100054c-ez-rj-pro-hd-crimp-tool >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021, 4:29 PM Carl Peterson <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This one? >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/crimper-tool-for-rj45-rj11-rj12 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:49 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tried to find that this morning to put in our wiki, actually. I got >>>>>>> it from Streakwave. My guy is out of the office today, though. And the >>>>>>> website is broken if you search crimper. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you need it right away just call someone at Streakwave and ask >>>>>>> for crimpers. If there are multiple options, ask what Imagine Networks >>>>>>> has >>>>>>> been buying. The new ones are blue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:58 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Josh, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any chance you could send the info on the tool you are using with >>>>>>>> them? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:19 PM Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 100% Shireen smartfeed connectors. I think they made the tool, >>>>>>>>> too. It nearly eliminated our rj45/cat5 problems. At least 99% >>>>>>>>> resolved >>>>>>>>> I'd say. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We tried Arc/Ubnt/Netonix in the past. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 2:06 PM Carl Peterson < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We currently use 2061 dies in regular crimp frames. Debating >>>>>>>>>> buying new dies vs moving to something else. Looking for something >>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> tech-proof as possible that doesn't rely on them knowing how much to >>>>>>>>>> squeeze. Any favorites out there? Any favorites on Shielded RJ45s? >>>>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>>> currently use the Netonix ones. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> We have been seeing a lot more ethernet cabling issues as of >>>>>>>>>> late. 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