I was thinking of getting a bird, this is serious, what to use to line the cage with?

On 2/1/22 15:56, Steve Jones wrote:
I miss my paper too. We were talking about getting the daughter a bird. Was telling herwe just line the cage with newspaper, then thought about how the only time theres a newspaper here is when somebody dies so we can cut out the obit. So now, do my daughter to have a pet, i have to get into murdering people i know. I guess that means tha the decline of print media will lead to increase in central illinois homicides.

On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 2:20 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

    Talking heads that make their living off of creating drama and
    controversy are all BS.  The View, Joe, Rachael... all of them are
    BS.
    Newspapers less so but you gotta know the bias going in.
    In Utah we used to have two really good daily papers.  The Deseret
    News and the Salt Lake Tribune. Both date way back.  One pro LDS
    church and one anti LDS church.  The Des News does not really
    exist as a daily and I don’t think either of them print on paper. 
    I had to read both to get the best idea of what was going on with
    any issue.  I miss my physical papers.  They sure filled up the
    garbage can though.
    I mostly ignore national news on TV, radio and podcasts.  Used to
    listen to NPR all the time.  It used to have jazz locally for
    lotsa hours each day. They took that off and gave us first Juan
    Williams, really a good interviewer, then Diane Rheme.  I really
    disliked her.
    Don’t much listen to any NPR anymore.  Just WBGO listen live. 
    Good jazz.
    *From:* Bill Prince
    *Sent:* Tuesday, February 1, 2022 11:15 AM
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    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term
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    How do you ascertain that he was not?

    bp
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    On 2/1/2022 10:13 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
    How did you ascertain that what he was saying was BS?



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    *From: *"Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected]
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    *Sent: *Tuesday, February 1, 2022 11:41:32 AM
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    It's like Joe Rogan now saying that he's going to give equal time
    to science versus the BS he's spreading on his podcast. Does that
    make the BS any less BS?

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    On 2/1/2022 8:40 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:

        Coincidence ?  or Magical Thinking?

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        *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of
        *Steve Jones
        *Sent:* Tuesday, February 1, 2022 10:17 AM
        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias
        Term in Tech

        Thats exactly it for the issues that actually exist, thanks.

        Now i need to know what its called when the issue is imagined
        after an event.

        Similar to the game i play with my wife where i ask her if
        the kids feel warm and 99 percent of the time she "feels" a
        fever on their forehead

        On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 9:39 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

            In classical Greek sophistry, the term was “Post hoc ergo
            propter hoc”. Which means “after, therefore because of”.

            It’s one of the classic logical fallacies.

            *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve
            Jones
            *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2022 1:10 AM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
            *Subject:* [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias
            Term in Tech

            You guys are a bunch of nerds, somebody has to know the
            term Im looking for to describe this phenomena.

            When an inert even triggers customers to believe there is
            an issue that doesnt exist, or they notice an existing
            issue and assign it to the event.

            Some examples:

            You put up a notification that site A is undergoing
            maintenance, so a customer on Site B that is totally
            isolated sayas that ever since that maintenance, there
            has been a problem.

            We did a mass change of our defalt WPA keys on managed
            routers. Probably 1 percent of the customers claimed that
            "ever since the change" there has been some issue.
            Changing they WPA key wont impact performance.

            I just completed a network wide rate plan naming
            convention change, every non custom account will have 
            anew name for their rate plan on their invoice. this had
            zero service impact, its just clerical, but as the bills
            go out, probably 1 percent (probably that same 1 percent)
            will call in with an "ever since the change" complaint.

            Im not looking to argue with the customer as to whether
            there is an issue or not, Im simply looking for the name
            of the phenomenon.

            Id like to incorporate this into tier 1 support training
            so that this doesnt continually generate nuisance
            escalations. Some reference material on it would be the
            bees knees. Everything has a name, like Petrichor: the
            way it smells outside after rain or Phosphenes: the
            lights you see when you close your eyes and press your
            hands to them.

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