Newspaper was preferred because of a single sheet to cover the whole thing.
Would have to tape a bunch of junk mail together i guess

On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 7:38 PM Jan-GAMs <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was thinking of getting a bird, this is serious, what to use to line the
> cage with?
> On 2/1/22 15:56, Steve Jones wrote:
>
> I miss my paper too. We were talking about getting the daughter a bird.
> Was telling herwe just line the cage with newspaper, then thought about how
> the only time theres a newspaper here is when somebody dies so we can cut
> out the obit. So now, do my daughter to have a pet, i have to get into
> murdering people i know.
> I guess that means tha the decline of print media will lead to increase in
> central illinois homicides.
>
> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 2:20 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Talking heads that make their living off of creating drama and
>> controversy are all BS.  The View, Joe, Rachael... all of them are BS.
>> Newspapers less so but you gotta know the bias going in.
>>
>> In Utah we used to have two really good daily papers.  The Deseret News
>> and the Salt Lake Tribune.  Both date way back.  One pro LDS church and one
>> anti LDS church.  The Des News does not really exist as a daily and I don’t
>> think either of them print on paper.  I had to read both to get the best
>> idea of what was going on with any issue.  I miss my physical papers.  They
>> sure filled up the garbage can though.
>>
>> I mostly ignore national news on TV, radio and podcasts.  Used to listen
>> to NPR all the time.  It used to have jazz locally for lotsa hours each
>> day.  They took that off and gave us first Juan Williams, really a good
>> interviewer, then Diane Rheme.  I really disliked her.
>>
>> Don’t much listen to any NPR anymore.  Just WBGO listen live.  Good jazz.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 1, 2022 11:15 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in
>> Tech
>>
>>
>> How do you ascertain that he was not?
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 2/1/2022 10:13 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>
>> How did you ascertain that what he was saying was BS?
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected]
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, February 1, 2022 11:41:32 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in
>> Tech
>>
>> It's like Joe Rogan now saying that he's going to give equal time to
>> science versus the BS he's spreading on his podcast. Does that make the BS
>> any less BS?
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 2/1/2022 8:40 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>
>> Coincidence ?  or Magical Thinking?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
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>> *From:* AF mailto:[email protected] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 1, 2022 10:17 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in
>> Tech
>>
>>
>>
>> Thats exactly it for the issues that actually exist, thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now i need to know what its called when the issue is imagined after an
>> event.
>>
>>
>>
>> Similar to the game i play with my wife where i ask her if the kids feel
>> warm and 99 percent of the time she "feels" a fever on their forehead
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 1, 2022, 9:39 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> In classical Greek sophistry, the term was “Post hoc ergo propter hoc”.
>> Which means “after, therefore because of”.
>>
>> It’s one of the classic logical fallacies.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 01, 2022 1:10 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Motivated Perception/Confirmation Bias Term in Tech
>>
>>
>>
>> You guys are a bunch of nerds, somebody has to know the term Im looking
>> for to describe this phenomena.
>>
>>
>>
>> When an inert even triggers customers to believe there is an issue that
>> doesnt exist, or they notice an existing issue and assign it to the event.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some examples:
>>
>>
>>
>> You put up a notification that site A is undergoing maintenance, so a
>> customer on Site B that is totally isolated sayas that ever since that
>> maintenance, there has been a problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> We did a mass change of our defalt WPA keys on managed routers. Probably
>> 1 percent of the customers claimed that "ever since the change" there has
>> been some issue. Changing they WPA key wont impact performance.
>>
>>
>>
>> I just completed a network wide rate plan naming convention change, every
>> non custom account will have  anew name for their rate plan on their
>> invoice. this had zero service impact, its just clerical, but as the bills
>> go out, probably 1 percent (probably that same 1 percent) will call in with
>> an "ever since the change" complaint.
>>
>>
>>
>> Im not looking to argue with the customer as to whether there is an issue
>> or not, Im simply looking for the name of the phenomenon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Id like to incorporate this into tier 1 support training so that this
>> doesnt continually generate nuisance escalations. Some reference material
>> on it would be the bees knees. Everything has a name, like Petrichor: the
>> way it smells outside after rain or Phosphenes: the lights you see when you
>> close your eyes and press your hands to them.
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