We have a local bank that was willing to do a 5 year loan for working
capital on a fiber build that was partially grant funded. 5% interest.
Maybe we got lucky but we had our books in order and had done a
projected cashflow study as part of the grant and they easily
understood why the project and loan made sense.

On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 9:51 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> There's only one business loan writer at the "local" bank here (Wright Patt 
> Credit Union).  We went to baseball games, we'd talk when we walked past each 
> other, done several vehicle loans, had a line of credit for years after it 
> was supposed to have closed.
>
> She went from $30k unsecured for a building loan to getting it rejected by 
> the committee.  She was clearly upset with them and was debating about 
> leaving them after the last ~18 months.  This was the middle of 2021 when 
> they had a huge hard on for PPP loans.  They didn't even want to lend money 
> to buy land and a building.
>
> Even if you know them personally, there's some sort of stop gap.
>
> Moral of the story, fiber building means Live Oak Bank and maybe CoBack in 
> the future as far as I'm concerned.
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 3:15 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> OK, my “local” bank is pretty large.  Zions.  But we do know the local 
>> branch manager, and all the employees.  I don’t deal with the small truly 
>> local banks.  I will amend this to you should get to know your banker.
>>
>> From: Mark Radabaugh
>> Sent: Friday, February 4, 2022 12:47 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>>
>> Tried that myself, in the end it wasn’t worth a shit.     Probably spent 15 
>> years grooming a local bank.    They were more than happy to take our 
>> deposits, give us auto and real estate loans but when it came to fiber it 
>> was a completely different story.
>>
>> In the end they were worthless.   Ended up going with Live Oak, who has been 
>> great to work with.
>>
>> Skip the local guys - they don’t understand anything that isn’t real estate 
>> or vehicles.     Get your books in order, do proper accrual accounting, quit 
>> expensing everything, and go find a bank that knows the industry.
>>
>> Stop wasting your time with the idiots.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:00 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> That’s important: “was on first name basis with VP and loan officer... “
>>
>> You gotta get a local bank, stick with it and get to know them and them get 
>> to know you.  Makes a huge difference.
>>
>> From: Jaime Solorza
>> Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 5:30 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: business loans
>>
>> When I started my company in 1992, I had some large purchase orders from 
>> Johnson & Johnson plus GE Capcom which I used to receive loans from bank.  
>> Had to get them signed over to bank at first but after a few large orders, 
>> the bank gave me a $100,000.00 credit line to get ramped up...Always paid on 
>> time and never abused it...was on first name basis with VP and loan 
>> officer...
>> Not sure if banks are this open to help small businesses anymore...can't 
>> hurt to try....good luck
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 3, 2022, 3:18 PM Steve Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ive never done business loans before, just mortgage and personal.
>>>
>>> Do lenders consider contracts to be future revenue?
>>>
>>> Where is the best type of lender to look for with no business history? The 
>>> local lender with the mortgages and local personal loans? National lenders? 
>>> What about if 2021 deatroyed your personal credit to a fair rating, is a 
>>> business loan even an option even with a contract exceeding the loan amount 
>>> by 80 percent?
>>>
>>> Is the sba an actual resource to invest time into for starting something 
>>> up, or is it like BBB.
>>>
>>>
>>> Aside from the loan question, when getting into underground work (laying 
>>> pipe, and cablework) what expenses outside labor, insurance, 
>>> maintenance(vehicle, equipment, staff lodging/per diem, fuel, etc), 
>>> tax/workmans comp, etc do you come across? If you dont own the duct.
>>>
>>>
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