I asked about it in a webinar, and the answer at that time was that to be "legal" yes, you will have to send the new CPI out to each installation to verify the data is accurate before they can take it over. Wherever that webinar was with said it would have to change for it to be realistic, but at that time, that was the facts. I dont recall who the webinar was with, I primarily dealt with cambium, and did my CPI through commsearch, but I think redline also did a webinar I sat in.
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 3:52 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Google made a big deal out of the fact that you were personally > responsible for the accuracy of the data. If what you heard is true, then > If/when I allow my certification to expire a new person will have to become > personally responsible for hundreds of installations which happened years > prior and which they’ve never seen. > > > > I think that new person will have to count on the FCC never actually > fussing over it. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 4:33 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS > > > > We were told if it expires then all CBSD grants are revoked, same as if > the CPI is revoked or suspended > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 3:20 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ok so you’re saying an expired certification doesn’t hurt existing > registrations. That would make way more sense. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 10:48 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS > > > > If it's registered and good..leave it alone. > > > If it needs re registered, like it moves on the house or to a different > house you'll just need that new CPI guy to do it. > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 10:19 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > > That’s fine, but what if I leave the company and let my certification > expire? Does another employee have to re-enter the CPE into the SAS? > > > > -Adam > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 9:51 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS > > > > Just recertify, you have to have someone on staff with it. > > > > On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:05 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Interesting. I hadn’t thought about what happens when a certification > expires. That will be a rude shock if it works that way. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 8:35 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS > > > > If a cpi leaves and doesnt keep renewing then one day everybody > disconnects. 5 yeats comes quick > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 12:42 PM Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > > It kind of makes sense, because a CPI is really just supposed to be > verifying that the install was done correctly. If somebody goes and messes > with it later on, you can't really hold the CPI responsible for that, so > there theoretically shouldn't be any ongoing liability, as long as you did > the job right in the first place. There's less incentive for an employee to > make sure they did everything right, if they aren't personally responsible > for it. > > > > A CPI leaving the company shouldn't really have any impact on any existing > CBSD's... I would think the CPI could even be a contractor, but I never > actually took the CPI course, so I could be wrong... > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 11:46 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I was hoping they had changed that dumb rule > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022, 10:28 AM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Exactly. They made a big point of the fact that you are personally > responsible for accuracy of the data you put in. Not sure how a company > CPI would fit with that. > > > > -Adam > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 10:35 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS > > > > I mean I did and I'm horrible at tests. I did the Google test at Coursera. > > > > There simply can't and won't be a company CPI. If you leave the company > then the company needs to recertify. > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 10:30 AM Steve Jones <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Were any of us really absorbing all that much when we did CPI? It was new, > half of it wasnt even finalized, the course was too long and dry for the > small volume of info. > > > > > > speaking of CPI, have they created a company CPI yet? ours is my name and > if I transition from employee to contractor Im curious how that impacts the > registered CBSDs > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 8:49 AM Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It's like 90% of the class for your CPI, I mean clearly you weren't paying > attention :P The requirement is to report the height and position. Every > time. Every CPE, every AP. > > > > If it's operating under your NN license, which is almost > certainly expired, you're operating illegally. > > > > If you're operating under CBRS it requires you to report every CPE. > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 7:55 AM Andy Trimmell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I’m sitting here wondering how I missed this in CPI training. I believed > that what was supposed to be “registered” was a CBSD which had specific > height requirements and type which these units aren’t exceeding these > specifications. Yes the product is Baicells. > > > > Anyone else here that uses Baicells gone down this road too with a similar > assumption? > > > > > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:35 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS > > > > With Baicells LTE it's possible to leave the CPE in non-CBRS mode (either > by not enabling it, or by just never upgrading the firmware to the CBRS > capable version), and they'll connect to a CBRS eNB just fine... I wouldn't > be surprised if that's true for some of the other LTE products too. > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:23 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Well it occurred to me that I’m thinking of Cambium 450 which forces you > to play by the rules by disabling bridging until the CPE is authorized by > the SAS. Maybe Andy has a different product that works differently. > > ….but yeah all fixed CPE are supposed to be in the SAS. > > > > I think mobile devices don’t need to be registered. Since Andy mentioned > eNB I’m guessing maybe he’s got an LTE product, and maybe the vendor allows > you to pretend the UE are all mobile? > > > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:16 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: CBRS > > > > Yeah, if they're still running without being registered, you've got some > problems that need fixing... > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 3:09 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you’re using CBRS then your CPE can’t connect at all if it’s not > registered with the SAS. It literally won’t connect. > > > > I think you may be stuck in another time period. > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Andy Trimmell > *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 4:05 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT: CBRS > > > > Do all of you individually register your CPEs? I just got an email out > of the blue telling me I need to register each one of the CPEs that are > connected to my eNBs. 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