We apply late fees to all invoices that get past 90 days and suspend them.  We 
don’t turn them back on until they bring their account “current” (sadly under 
the terms, just bringing it under 90 days past due) and then suspend them again 
when they get past 90.  We only have one customer that goes past 90 on it 
currently and she’s been shut off since last month so I’m not sure how this is 
going to go down if she doesn’t pay something soon. 

 

So, the way the system works, tomorrow they will create a “snapshot” of all of 
our subscribed customers as of the first of the month.  We then submit for 
August service reimbursement before the 15th of September.  We then receive the 
money via deposit into a bank account (we created a separate account at Chase 
for this since they had an account option with no fees and no minimum balances) 
that we essentially use as a sweep account around the end of that month.  We 
received the July reimbursement on August 25th which I think is the earliest 
we’ve gotten it so far.  It’s typically two days before the end of the month 
when it hits our account.  

 

I don’t know what it takes to sign up for the program now but I would estimate 
it took 40-60 hours of work to enroll when EBB started…….  

 

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 1:15 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

 

"With ACP that changed to allowing late fees and you can suspend if they are 
more than 90 days past due."

 

That was my biggest hangup. Maybe ACP is worth looking into, then. Are you able 
to decline service to a customer that has a past-due balance? IE: You give them 
90 days, suspend\disconnect them, and then they re-apply. What happens then?



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From: "James Howard" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 1:10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

We do participate in the ACP program.  We signed up for it as EBB and then 
transitioned when that was converted to ACP.  Frankly, it was a pain to get 
setup and is rather a pain to administer.  We did it only as a service to our 
customers and to avoid being a reason that they would switch to a competitor.  
The program has nothing to do with FUSF taxes though since it is a 
reimbursement program.  You apply for a reimbursement on behalf of your 
customers.  It started out up to $50 ($75 on tribal lands) per month for 
internet service but is $30 per customer/address per month now.  Originally you 
were not allowed to suspend customers who were late on payments no matter how 
far behind they were as long as they were in the EBB program.  With ACP that 
changed to allowing late fees and you can suspend if they are more than 90 days 
past due.  We don’t participate in the device portion of the program.   There 
is an upcoming “Transparency” process that opens on September 8th.  The webinar 
didn’t make it look like that will be too big of a deal for anyone 
participating at a low level like we do but that remains to be seen.   Honestly 
though, the only advantage to participating in this is to keep customers (or 
get them if their current provider doesn’t participate) from leaving because 
they want their welfare (that’s what it is) check.  It is a considerable amount 
of work each month for ultimately $0 extra income.

 

James

 

 

From: AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf 
Of Peter Kranz via AF
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2023 6:04 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Cc: Peter Kranz <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

 

Is anyone participating in the ACP? Did participation require you become a form 
499 filer and collect FUSF taxes from your end users?

 

-Peter


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