This is the best idea I've ever heard for a WISP business invention.  I
LOVE the idea.  It would be really hard to justify the cost on customer
installs.  I could see maybe bundling it into every business install.  It
also becomes one more reason why our business installs are better.  We
could power cycle it remotely, view statistics, etc.  I think I could
justify it on every business account.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 5:47 PM, timothy steele via Af <[email protected]> wrote:

> A cap that keeps ants/worms on of SM for tree installs would be nice
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> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 7:45 PM, That One Guy via Af <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> then youre already putting in 5-20 dollars worth of cable, 20-35 dollars
>> in surge protection. 5-15 dollars in mounting hardware in incidental costs
>> aside from the CPE there isnt really much breathing room for residential
>> 29-39 dollar connections. Especially in cases like us who eat the CPE cost.
>> The reality is it would be just one more piece of equipment for customers
>> to plug in incorrectly, or even better, completely bypass.
>> That being said, I want it, and I want it to display the MAC address of
>> the attached device so that when a customer gets a new router to self
>> provision they can look on the display and know what it is, we still have
>> CS staff telling them to look on the sticker on the router.. fucking
>> dipshits.
>>
>>
>> E
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>> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
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>>>  Honestly, a RB2011 fills that niche pretty well. Lock the LCD to
>>> display only WAN bandwidth, and disable the touchscreen. Techs can log
>>> into the RB2011 with the admin credentials and check on the wireless
>>> clients, interface errors, run speed tests (tcp) to the headend of your
>>> network, etc.
>>>
>>> $5/mo for router management a month is what we charge, and the people
>>> that have the service love it.
>>>
>>> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
>>> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
>>>  On 10/05/2014 01:18 PM, TJ Trout via Af wrote:
>>>
>>>  I would love to find a router that has poe output and all of the
>>> diagnostic features you mentioned. It would be nice if the customer could
>>> just look at the router to see the status of the connection up down or
>>> otherwise.
>>>  On Oct 5, 2014 2:13 PM, "Chris Fabien via Af" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I'd say you are correct. Would love to have the functionality but
>>>> even at $75 I couldn't justify the cost.
>>>> On Oct 5, 2014 5:08 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account) via Af" <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Following up on the previous email about product ideas, I have an idea
>>>>> for a product which at least I think would be really cool, but I also 
>>>>> think
>>>>> would likely be a big flop, just because of the apparent cost sensitivity
>>>>> of installs.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to me that it would be nice to replace the power injector at
>>>>> customer sites with more of an intelligent device.   One that provides
>>>>> functionality like traffic metering, cable diagnostics, customer-location
>>>>> speed tests, and so on.   The unit would have jacks for the radio, the
>>>>> customer equipment, and power.   It would also have a display which shows
>>>>> real-time usage data for the customer to be able to determine for
>>>>> themselves what their current internet consumption is.   There are a lot 
>>>>> of
>>>>> natural outgrowths from this such as watchdog reset of the radio itself,
>>>>> automatic problem notification to the WISP, etc.   My goal would be to
>>>>> instrument this as much as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you think of this as a 'smart power meter' for internet, with
>>>>> diagnostic tools built in, then you've got the basic idea.  This is not
>>>>> intended to replace the customer router/nat device, and will only be a
>>>>> Layer 2 device as far as traffic goes.  There will likely be some limited
>>>>> traffic shaping possible based on the underlying ethernet swtich chipset.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, these can't be a $20 device.   $75 might be doable for
>>>>> higher volumes, but $100 is more in the comfort zone for the volumes I
>>>>> typically move.  Of course, this is a CPE device and I'm not even sure how
>>>>> many I'd sell so these prices are guesses at best - but more likely to go
>>>>> down instead of up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Although I suspect most people would love to have one of these at each
>>>>> install, I have a hard time believing that most people would swallow 
>>>>> adding
>>>>> even $75 to the cost of each install, let alone the $100 which might be 
>>>>> the
>>>>> price I'd have to hit for lower volume.   Is this a fair assumption?  
>>>>> Would
>>>>> you add such a device to each install?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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>> parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
>> can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
>> use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925
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